TheMoneyPit

Every now and then someone asks to purchase an emblem out of my collection, which I am not inclined to do. I realize that these are getting harder to find with each passing year but I have always found that there’s more emblems available than cars. Anyhow, if anyone has a Pierce emblem like this one please message either myself or the username pughs with that information. Thank you!

My quote “Yes, very very scarce but wouldn’t bring the same money as a far more common Pierce-Arrow, Cadillac, or Packard of the same year...” Before someone asks, yes I know that for a fact...

Ahh, the “it’s really rare so it must be valuable” argument again. Which is almost as bad a discussion to enter as politics, religion, and oppression. I should know better... I am 100% in agreement with Mercer on this, sadly rarity is in the deficit column with this model range of car. The description above “a lower price companion to...” seals its fate. Now, if you found an unusually bodied Packard, Pierce, Caddy, etc you would have something that could be restored as those parts, while expensive, are at least available. Here’s an example: The son of an old friend has a Bay State car. I now know of only two that exist. Around 30 years ago it was VERY ROUGH and missing one hubcap. At that time it sold to a guy in Wisconsin who put all the wood back into a 4-door sedan and got it drivable. Once that gentleman died it was purchased for less than when it was a pile of rotting wood, but now it is missing the hubcaps, emblem and Moto-Meter. He told me that it could cost him more to replace those parts than he paid for it and it’s only for the love of a local car that keeps him looking. But now, and here’s a sad truth, there are more collectors willing to buy the radiator emblem, the hubcaps, and the mascot for more than what you can sell the rest of a rough project for, and in the case of the Bay State a running car! And yes, I am one of those people who appreciate the automobillia as much as the cars as I think it’s a way of keeping those cars alive and remembered. That is what you face with a project like this Falcon. Anyhow, now I am done with my sad rant, a few years ago my wife bought this for my Christmas gift. It is an original factory Falcon car mascot, and one of very few I’ve seen. Yes, very very scarce but wouldn’t bring the same money as a far more common Pierce-Arrow, Cadillac, or Packard of the same year...

I don’t want you to think I’m bashing the HAMB, this is more of a purist site and the HAMB is more suited to the knobs for sale. I wouldn’t have made any comments if they were not misrepresented as vintage above, but anyone trying to take advantage of the less knowledgeable collectors here do far more damage to the hobby as a whole. Once burned, people are far more likely to walk away and not take a further interest in it.

I agree with Mark, these didn’t exist in this hobby until around 2000 or later. Too much of that crap is diluting the real automobillia and I think if you were to be honest in your description and tell people the truth about them your 100% self claimed reputation would be greatly diminished. The HAMB is the right place for them IMHO.

Very sad news, he was a long time contributor here and will be greatly missed. Please give our condolences to the family

Yes, both are removable bodies, the Roadster section comes out without the hood and trunk, and the sedan it’s the whole body separating from the chassis.

Closeup pictures of the pin cushion, you will have to tell me if it’s an early Great Arrow... I do have these two other PA cars on my “used car lot”, at least they have the right headlights!

I don’t know if it’s a Pierce-Arrow and I don’t remember where I got it. When I get home from Christmas I’ll get better pictures and see but I think those are more generic types of car shapes than a specific one.

I guess I’ll need a Christmas tree for next year... A very Merry Christmas to all!

Sadly, I think Auburnseeker nailed it, the elusive “someone” may need an obscure $25.00 part or widget but on the whole it’s worth more as lawn art or scrap iron in its current condition. I don’t think it could be saved for anything less than 10x it’s value restored, if that...

Another thing you are missing is that they will make a “mistake” on the scam check thereby sending well in excess of your $500 estimate... which you can then return (using a good form of payment) along with your parts to his shipping agent. Its sad to think that this must be working out on someone as they are still trying to use the scam...

I knew that I was going to forget all about doing that for you... A tracing will be in the mail to you tomorrow as I still have your address in an old email!

Something around a 35 Hudson. I think it’s the 8 Cylinder model but not 100%

The one in the middle looks like an 08 Mitchell with those flared fenders, and the radiator script looks to end with “ll” as well. I vote Mitchell.

One wonders if it has survived. A grand car it would be.

Well, maybe a coastal thing, but I appreciate good scrimshaw. Not a large collection, but it’s getting harder to find. My wife likes cameo carvings which isn’t too far off.

There is a much better reproduction out there to be aware of, it’s the style with an outer boarder. The giveaway is that it has a post with a small female thread on the backside. The one original emblem I know of with a female thread are the earlier Franklin cars before they went to the fake radiator grill, but those are also well marked. No matter how good any emblem looks, 95% are marked by the maker and any that are not should be approached with caution!

Agree, both the emblem and mascot. BTW, that emblem above is more likely a reproduction, the details are really crude comparatively.

My problem is that they ALL catch my eye...

Am I missing it or is yours not marked?

Tex, can you confirm that the maker was Fox? Mine was missing the stud and I soldered a screw over the mark but can see “The” on one side and “o” on the other.

Mike and Murray have compiled a great site for reference. I recently sold a super scarce NOS emblem to Mike which was a duplicate one to my own collection and I was extremely pleased that he got it for his collection. My Rambler is identical to Terry’s and also marked Schwaab, it hadn’t been off that display in at least 25 years... 30Dodge, you have a personal message with a picture of the emblem I think is the one you’re asking about. I also have several miniature emblems from dashboards, headlights and etc, they have absolutely nothing in common with the original posting. Those were made as collectibles and are in no way to be confused as an original one. An interesting collection yes, but not like the originals in value or scarcity IMO.

I think it’s a Bastion Brothers item, but it’s definitely marked. If you want me to, I’ll take it off and confirm that maker. There are some unmarked original pins around, but they are still able to get identified by their quality and style of mount. Rule of thumb: if it ain’t marked be VERY CAUTIOUS when buying!!!!!!!

Maybe you haven’t seen any because it’s not a Pulfer made item... not one of those are