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I'm not sure about the requirement for starting with a bare chassis. There are many classics that were rebodied in period. The key is the "in period" piece. Some of the truly great ones like the round door rolls for example started off with a different body.

This thread would get more juice in the CCCA forum. My personal opinion is that if a custom body was built by a professional entity on a then new pre-1948 chassis and that body was of a very high quality and expensive then I would be o.k. with it. I imagine that if each owner petitioned for inclusion of their car then they would probably be accepted. This is how it would work with a Darrin bodied ford chassis.

So how much engineering do you think an automobile company has to put into their seatbelt design before they statistically make you safer in a crash? Do you think someone in their backyard bolting some aftermarket belts onto a car with a wooden framed body is actually making themselves safer? Would belts in a 1909 Oldsmobile save you when you get slammed by a F150? I think we are all deluding ourselves by thinking that these crude belts you see bolted into cars that were not designed for them are somehow making things safer. Sadly, accidents happen.

This doesn't happen as much as you think, at least with the astute collectors. Nothing devalues a car faster then multiple trips to the auction block.

A year or two ago there was a DV32 Bearcat for sale at auction that was built by Bill Johnson. I asked George about it and he confirmed that there were in fact two different Bill Johnsons. A east coast one and a west coast one. I believe the blower was the only Stutz piece that the West Cost Johnson had. He had lots of Duesenberg stuff. Btw, George has perfected the blower application for the SV16 so you do get the true boost when it's engaged. You are right that it's a lot easier to get the same horsepower simply from the DOHC head.

I assume you are talking about the Kruse Auction held in the Giant Center? Drawing people doesn't make any money for the auction company. Registered bidders and cars with a health sales percentage does.

Just wondering what was the last year that these were printed?

Ivan, this is very interesting and you should really re-post it in the Stutz forum. I know that the DV-32 (which was a better overhead cam setup the the J) was developed independently but I'm amazed at how many people think that Stutz copied Duesenberg.

The A Duesenberg is a great car. Many A engines found their way into race cars which you cannot really say about the J. From a collectible standpoint, the A suffers as all 20s era cars do when compared to those of the 30s. I think much of this has to do with styling.

Is it just me or is it a bit odd that 4 different new guys all post to the same very old ad within 24 hours???

California Spyders go for much less then 10 million, even short wheelbase covered headlight models. Closer to 3-4 million. I'm sure this is a replica anyways.

Thank you for your service. A beautiful car. I second the idea of a high end auction. Be sure to pick one that is featuring high end Classics (as in pre-war high dollar cars).

West - you drive sideways on a dirt road??? I go back and forth between the the 500k Cab A and the first series 540k Cab A as to which is better looking. As for the silly spot lights I have always liked them. They are your best bet if you want any kind of side view mirror. You could mount mirrors on the sidemounts (which isn't an option for this car) which really wrecks the lines or you could put something non-factory on.

There is nothing more Classic (in my mind) then a 500k/540k Mercedes and here is the all time best 540k/500k video. At the 47 second mark the driver engages the blower. He is driving this 1.5 million dollar car ($10,000 new in 1936) harder then I drive my truck. People love to brag about how they drive their cars. I'll bet none of us are doing what this dude is doing. YouTube - M.B. 500K in Sweden

This is what I was going to say. If you are driving it daily then you want regular insurance.

Wow what a great (and difficult) project. This looks like an extra long wheelbase chassis so anything you find will have to be lengthened. Best of luck with the restoration. A.J.

This has been covered a bunch of times. Try a search for lots of threads. I use J.C. Taylor.

Here are some pictures of the exhaust manifolds.

Please thank your son for his service from me. A.J.

Have you guys seen this? Text from the ad: First off - For those of you that were wondering why this item was removed earlier by ebay - The wording in the payment section did not meet their criteria. I listed cash as an acceptable payment and I should have said "cash in person" or "cash in hand". My apologies to the folks at ebay and to those of you who have shown interest. Thanks to all.......... In addition. I was fortunate enough to uncover a photo from an old publishing regarding the "Beast". It describes the initial creation of the "Harris Steamer" and it's creator. Please look at the photo near the end. ENJOY! . Talk about a “barn find”. True one-of-a-kind futuristic designed vehicle built in the 1930’s – we call it the “beast” due to its size and weight. Close to 20 feet long and @ 5000 pounds – it’s BIG. Originally steam powered (by a Stanley steam engine). The engine was placed in the rear of the vehicle. The controls and gauges were routed to the front. Packard gauges and dish wheels – believed to be from a commercial vehicle (truck, bus, etc.). The condenser unit is still in place in the front (see photos). Unreal, hand built steel body. The metal work is amazing. Hand built aluminum headlight surrounds and window garnish moldings. The interior was designed with 2 single seats at the front and an “overstuffed” sofa type rear seat – the right side armrest storing the spare tire and the left side storing the fuel tank. The Story has it – this vehicle was being built as a display vehicle for the 1939 Worlds fair – unfortunately I was never able to confirm or deny the claim. The vehicle ended up in the Harris estate where it resided until the early 1960’s. A Grand Rapids resident purchased the vehicle with the intentions of a restoration. Needless to say, it was never restored. In the 1980’s a local resident knew of its creation (he frequently discussed its sale with the previous owner over a several year period) and purchased the vehicle for it’s engine and drive assembly. The engine was removed from the chassis and the vehicle was tucked away. I happened upon it in 2003 and mentioned to the owner if he ever thought he might sell – to give me a call. A few months later I was bringing it home only to receive a comment from the wife “What the heck is that?” “It sure is ugly; I hope it’s not staying here.” I had the intentions of fabricating/converting a motor home chassis to accommodate the body but now realize I have too many other projects and will never have the time to do it. This is your chance to own a piece of automotive history and futuristic design from the 1930's.

The intake and carb are sold. I also have have very nice pair of Stutz Exhuast Manifolds for a 27 AA or a 28 BB. $800.00

What's it worth posts are kinda lame but you have to at least post a picture to get worthwhile responses.

They are not Mercedes.

If you like it then buy it. If you are going to try to flip it for profit, good luck - 20s closed cars that need full restorations are not a booming market.

I realize I'm bragging but my dad is 84, plays hockey 3 times a week, goes to work 2 days a week and is simultaneously restoring 3 cars doing much of the work himself. Last week I had an argument with him because he wanted me to teach him how to use the 62 inch deck mower (it's not a riding mower). Hopefully some of those genes made there way down the chain.