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I'm a big believer that you should be able to do whatever you want with your own stuff. However, once in a while you will see a car rodded that was a crime against humanity. I agree, there is plenty of good (as in appropriate) cars to hot rod without messing with something rare or complete & untouched.

Again, I'm wondering what the 1% is for? The seller needs to make a single phone call and most of the eligible market will know the car is available. If you are managing the buyers on behalf of the seller to minimize annoyance then he should pay the 1%. If the seller is asking full retail then an auction is the only route to go unless it's a very special car.

Not to be snide, but what value are you adding for your 1%?

Off the top of my head the Mormon Meteor is the only American chassis car to win in quite a while. While the car is stunning, my guess would be no. However, depending on who bought it, who restored it, and what else was there that year you never know...

Were those available on the Nash? I will take back the comment if they are correct for the car but to me they look like modern wide radials (with the added insult of white walls). I still love the 32/33 Nash Advanced 8/Ambassador.

Is the Harrah's book a signed first edition? I see a huge price swing on those. 25-400 dollars.

That is a really nice set but 2k seems like a lot of money. Pair of E&J Model 20 Headlights (Edmunds and Jones) - eBay (item 180607809375 end time Jan-09-11 15:12:18 PST)

The Nash is a great car. But the tires are totally wrong and the colors are inappropriate. Finally, did Nash chrome their vent doors?

Dark would be my preference but this particular car should be brought back to the original color. Significant cars with known history should brought back to their original state. Not-so-significant or unknown history you should paint it whatever color you like.

Coachbult.com - Knightstown Buggy Company

Not sure there is a better angle.

Here is the auction description: <table width="100%" border="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding-right: 5px; text-align: right; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: top;"> </td> <td colspan="2" style="vertical-align: top;"> Fully restored Packard 8 with one-off custom coachwork by Knightstown Body Company who built custom bodies from 1900 to the 1940's. Features a beautiful caramel leather interior, black top and brilliant chrome. </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="padding-right: 5px; text-align: right; white-space: nowrap; vertical-align: top;"> Details: </td> <td colspan="2" style="vertical-align: top;"> Packard was the favorite of custom coachbuilders. The quality of its engines and drivetrains perfectly complemented the tastes of the clients of the great American coachbuilders like Dietrich and LeBaron whose individual custom and catalog custom designs on Packard chassis are the staple of today's great concours d'elegance. Packard's models evolved along with the 30's and in 1935 the 120 was introduced, a medium-priced model with 120" wheelbase, powerful Packard Eight engine and a catalog of standard bodies. The 120 was an immediate commercial success. Just three years later, in 1937, Packard sold nearly 10 120's for every Super 8. None of them had Phaeton coachwork from the factory, but there wasn't a Phaeton among the many cataloged Super 8 or 12 bodies, either. That was left to the few remaining independent coachbuilders like Knightstown, a firm well known for its professional coachwork. Exactly who ordered this unique Knightstown Phaeton with its fixed rigid roof and piliarless design that foreshadowed the 4-door hardtops of the mid-50's is not known but they and Knightstown anticipated a trend that would sweep the automobile industry in the decade after World War II. This rare and intriguingly ingenious hardtop bodied Phaeton Packard 120 has had a full cosmetic restoration in black with beautiful caramel leather interior, black top, wide white wall tires and brilliant chrome. It is an unusually long wheelbase chassis for the 120 drivetrain and is equipped with Tripp driving lights, Packard hubcaps, wheel trim rings, a folding rear seat windshield and trunk. Rear wheel skirts are a bridge between the classic and postwar eras. "Unique" is an overworked term, but it applies perfectly to this 1937 Packard 120 Knightstown hardtop Dual Windshield Phaeton, one of the most imaginative, innovative, elegant and intriguing automobiles of the 1930's. </td></tr></tbody></table>

One of my favorite cars for sure and I agree with you West on the color.

My parents used that car in their wedding back in 1963. My brother drove it to his prom in 1985. It has the edmunds head and intake on it and with the overdrive will moves along well. Next summer I'll have to take a video driving the 500k down the road. My camera died when I was filming the red 540k which was annoying because they drove it around the parking lot a bit which was fun to watch.

I think differences were common on the hand built bodies. When my dad was restoring his 540k, the left door was 1 inch shorter then the right door. He only found this out when he tried to put the door glass in and got it backwards.

Isn't that the Hayes Coupe? If so, what's with the funky fenders?

If Yahoo was around in 1976/77 they would have told you to buy a 76 Eldorado Conv. That wouldn't have worked out to well in retrospect.

Randy or Chris will chime in with the J number I'm sure. Looks to be an update on a Murphy Conv Coupe. Note the hood extends all the way to the windshield - a Bohman & Schwartz touch. I do not believe it's a JN.

I assume everyone here follows COACHBUILD.com ? If not you should. Here is what they have for Packard Waterhouse:

The proportions of the monobloc car remind me greatly of S & SS Mercedes. Dave, I think we've talked before about Jan Melin before and I completely agree. He's one of the great automotive historians.

Thanks! I'm a member of about 10 clubs, but perhaps I should join one more.

I see that you have referenced the "thief proof" number a few times. Could you explain how that worked and how it was "thief proof"? What year did Packard start using that? Does the number imply anything about the car itself, model, body, etc? thanks, A.J.

I stand corrected on the Connersville Darrins. I was talking to my dad last night about his car and he didn't think the build quality was that great. He said that the wheel wells had been hammered down (by hand with a hammer) so that the top boot would clear. There are a bunch of examples of this sort of workmanship in the car. I told him I thought the first 40s were built in Hollywood and that perhaps his was one of those but he felt they were all built at Connersville. I will say that his car does not rattle or shake and the doors have always fit well.

Have you ever seen a bad looking Waterhouse?

very well done!