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John was a true asset to the Buick community for decades

There is a 4th SUV the Encore GX which will be in between the Encore & Envision, there is also the Enspire in the works which will be similar to Cadillacs XT 4 and will be slipped into the spot between Envision and Enclave. There is still the possibility of an electric version of the Enspire. That would make 5 specific models of SUV not counting the various sub models for each. Who knows, maybe even one of these

And there are those of us that know the Reatta is a collectible - as with most collectible cars, the pristine low mileage ones are the first to take off. we have this argument all the time but we recently saw Reatta's selling in the $20K and up range and folks, there are very few 1990 cars that are going to bring that money short of exotics- the proof is in the pudding so to say. I guess the true collectors run a different mindset that the run of the mill Reatta driver.

I applaud a group that sticks to its original mission, the word preservation in there is the key word, modifying a car is not preservation. The thing about after 1959 is just silly. Have you actually properly restored many cars or just done your own thing to them, there is a huge difference and the majority of the AACA wants their original mission statement to stand. Sad is the day that modified cars enter the AACA judging fields

I doubt anything will be said about this forum, as mentioned it will be more geared to the AACA’s actual section

have you actually been to AACA National meets? A Vega, Pinto, Omni etc are seen at meets. It’s the same at any other show, unless someone is really into it all, the groups pretty much stick together. Cars like you mention are totally accepted at such shows and usually draw pretty large crowds. I have taken 23 cars to AACA meets and very few of them were high brow cars when new and nothing older than mid 5O’s. I have heard that same kind of griping for 40 years, the same thing was said 49?tears ago about the mud 60’s cars that were entering judging. Same old story.

For the cost of a paint job keep it a red that was available on a 1955 Buick, if you ever would sell the car, a non-authentic color can be a stumbling block. Some buyers will pass if it is not the done in the original paint code, but being that BCA and AACA will not deduct for a color that was available that year it's the safest bet. Plus Cherokee Red is a fantastic color and with the black will really pop

Cindy will be missed, she helped keep the Bugle as one of the best in the hobby.

Did see this nice one while doing national searches on FB https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/632709314156584/

Got tired of having all the magazines laying around and enjoy being able to read the latest Bugle regardless where I am traveling. I find it easy to open and read the E-Bugle

I feel the 91's were starting be homogenized, I have owned 9 now and have yet to own a 91. If the right one was there I would buy it but would not search one out. If a little more safety is of interest, the 90's and 91's did have drivers side airbag, the 88's & 89's did not. If not having the airbag is OK then go for the touchscreen in a 88 or 89 that you remember. I had mentioned the 88 being the purist of the Reatta's, it seemed to me other than remote entry, each year seemed a little less special, the 89's lost the 4 control buttons on the console to just 2 in 89, an early 88 with the suede is really special feeling. I would recommend trying to find one with the 16 way seats, there is no comparison in comfort for driving between the two, while the regular on is just fine, the 16 way one makes your go ahhh and when traveling gives you so many options to help keep you changing positions so as to stay comfortable. I agree with Barney though, buy any year if it is a nice low mileage well maintained car if it's a color combo that you like or would be happy with.

91 for rarity, 88 for the pure Reatta essence. Convertible from 90 or 91

Lol, “talk to your chapter board”. The chapters are all but forgotten and rarely listened to except for a few of the more prominent chapters. Might be different now with new office but used to be info and opinions gathered from chapter directors was squelched and buried at the office level before it could ever reach the board. A closed forum where issues can be discussed in real time is a great idea, people don’t play the mail, email and phone game anymore. Every board member should be required to be regular visitors to a closed forum, it’s actually sad the number of board members that ignore the forums, mostly because they don’t care to hear anything other than what they want to hear.

LOL, that was my first thought when Barney first posted this

The 25 year rule for judging makes sense, but seems out of touch with the collector world for discussion, many "modern" and i use that term as a 24 year old car is considered "modern" but the same make and model a year older is considered antique (roll eyes here) many 15-25 year old cars are more collectible than many that are over the 25 rule. It amazes me that it's trending OK to talk about Modification and customization in a club that is supposed to be about authenticity and preservation of original features but it's not ok to talk about a car that's 24 years old

That was a hard 12K miles

I’ve never heard that about the chrome wheels, wire covers making noise, yes. Mentioned is how rare the customline boot is, the customline fiberglass boot was not at all uncommon or rare on these. It’s a beautiful example and as mentioned and shown nicely optioned. Love the white with the pop of the dark red interior. Someone will get a nice one for sure

Your last statement just hit the nail on the head at why membership is struggling as I mentioned prior to you, members have gotten sick of the politics and games and have just moved on, the bleeding isn't going to stop anytime soon.

That car just goes to show how much better a Select 60 would have looked with matching moldings

One of the problems of the BCA, there are as many former members known as non-members as there are members anymore.

That was not a 71 color, 72 had Sunburst yellow on “A” body cars and some Rivs and other big cars were special ordered with it. If correctness is important to you you may want to check the paint code. It could also be an Opel color for 71 that was special ordered, that also happened. There would be the letters SCO after the paint code if it was a special order color. That looks more the Opel yellow than the 72 Sunburst

We are painfully aware of how hard it was for you to sell your Reatta, again it was well sorted out one but was still in driver condition and confusing being sold with various styles of wheels. Plus you had it priced at a price that MUCH lower mileage ones were selling for for a long time before you conceded that a higher mileage car wasn’t going to pull that money

Talk about a car that tanked, the Crossfire was supposed to be an instant collectible and they all but give them away now. Cramped inside with no luggage space as mentioned make them very limited in use. Plus the ride is harsh. They look nice is about the most you can say good. I agree with the rear window on the Reatta coupe being unfortunate. They should have given it the same roof line as the convertible.

Isn’t that the case with most collector cars?

I have said all along a low mileage impeccable Reatta will bring the money, and it’s proven yet again, but the naysayers will still continue.