C Carl

Go ahead. Go on and call me coward. Call me chikenshift if you want to. If I just walked out of the hospital with the little hands of my children in mine, I'd hang up my drivin' hat and boots. And I wouldn't care a bit what anyone else said or thought about it. Go. Call me coward. - C. Cadillac Carl

Thanks for posting that picture, Lebowski ! Very happy to see that ! I know we all have been so worried. Mommy and the little girls are so fortunate to have daddy back intact. 😊🙂😊🙂😊🙂. - Carl

Hi neighbor Greg ! Not necessarily a direct function of official old age. I see current weather conditions in Langley mirror the relief we are getting down South across the line from you. I want to take advantage of this and drive my '24 Cad for the first time this Winter. Questionable. As a result of my mountain snowmobiling accident early in 2012, I am handicapped. Today, the pain level requires medication. I finally took it,(non-opioid, non-antiinflammatory, wont/can't take those), and have had to go back to bed waiting for some relief. There will become a time soon, when I will have to take to bed more often, and for longer periods of time. I will have to adjust to looking at pictures to get my kicks. Now if I had THIS rde, the kicks could actually be on Route 66 ! I can picture getting up when I am able, opening up the motel door, and, with an arm around my lady, smiling at something that still looks period perfect, but within my capabilities to drive. Probably for short periods, and perhaps after needing to extend the stay at the motel for another day or few, but eventually continuing on our way. Plus, the little old lady sharing the wonderful times still within our capabilities, could manage the left seat also. Hey, man : I love my manual cogs, too. A bit of a snob, I kinda lean towards crashboxes. But there are places where automatics reign. Off-road 4-WD is one. Whether negotiating a rock garden in low/low with the hand throttle cracked, aired down in the sand, fording a river upstream in reverse, etc, etc, etc, you can't beat a slushbox. "Doing it in the dirt", the only function a manual wins over the auto' IMHO, is doing a compression start. I feel better now. I think I'll try to roll out again. Hoping you reach 95 in robust health, and with PROFOUND ADMIRATION AND RESPECT to the many who suffer greater pain and limitations than I do, Your forum friend, - Cadillac Carl

A second having been posted, and with a large majority of responses liking this modified antique automobile, the motion carries. Congratulations, Ed ! 🙂😉. - Carl

I might get a chance to fire up and drive my '24 in the next couple of days. You may see on some international news outlet that Seattle is about to experience two sunny, dry, relatively warm days in a row. That is a very big deal in this gloom capital of the lower 48. Our Summers are absolutely wonderful, though. Wish they would last longer. Global warming may help. If I do drive it, I will see if the old thing has a similar noise. - Carl

You are more than welcome, Ed. No one deserves a beating for this "heads-up."It is wonderful to see so much well chosen work go into something that even an older guy and his lady can enjoy into their more frail years. I am terrified to think of the not too distant day when I can not shift the gears and muscle my old beaters around anymore. Great to see that George preserved the original appearance. The only thing this car should have is A/C. Route 66, or the Lincoln highway, U.S. 50 across the middle, or U.S. 2 across the top of the country in the summer ? What is the equivalent old Canadian scenic trans-continental highway ? And speaking of Canada, the price is in Canadian dollars, right ? What is that in US$ ? - CC

88 thousand bucks, you say ? Fer a 1927 mid level 4 door see-dan? Zat where d'market's at deese days, izzit ? PLEASE don't nobody offer me dat kinda money fer my 1927 Cadillac fo' do'. It is in better shape den dis'n, and looks it too. 'Bout same miles. I love my '27 Cad, 'till death do we part. But dat much dough will force me to break my vows, and live on wit a broken heart. 😢. - CC

Since you are not looking for a show queen, my assumption is that you really like driving your cars. Me too. I see that you entered official old age back mid- October. I've been there five years longer. I encourage you to beat the bushes as aggressively as possible to flush out that '28. My'27 Cadillac popped up on Portland Oregon Craigslist while I was looking for something else, less than 200 miles from home. I had given up after looking for 20 years for just exactly the right one. I had already had serious health problems, including my first heart attack. So I hesitated for a couple or three days , and then went for it. After the time and expense of mechanically sorting it, I feel very lucky to be able to spend quality time with it. It is EXACTLY the right one. Where else are you looking ? Let us know, and please, everyone, do what you can to help our brother find his dream while he can still thoroughly enjoy it. - Carl

Well done indeed ! Not your typical...................! Thanks for posting, Ed. No bashing due as far as I am concerned. Yeah, I like it. A LOT !! As per recent sensitivity expressed regarding forum purity, I have a proposition : As a member in good standing of AACA, I hereby submit a motion that Ed Luddy be granted immunity from any and all repercussions derived from his worthy, (though modified), contribution. Second, please ? - Carl

Happy Birthday, you two lucky guys !!! - Carl

Yes, the cloth and leather combination was a usual Cadillac seating option. Full leather is less common. Not all of them back then had A/C, tilt 'wheel neither. A real cruising Cadillac ought to have both. Full leather, while very good looking, has nothing to do with "cruisability". - C Carl

Hi Rich ! Yes, Ben has it. I just don't know how to transfer a C.L. to the forum. Can someone teach me how to do that on my mini iPad ? I sometimes see an ad which might interest somebody here. I haven't seen one of these for a long time, but I think for a while they were bringing pretty good money. From the little I do understand, I think these were rust prone. On a "rustiness" scale from mint perfect to unrestorable, I would think this one owner, low mileage car from a previously no-salt zone, is probably not too bad,judging from the pics. Right ? One of those cars which could be given a deep cleaning and detail, and use as-is while sourcing parts. It is not my kind of antique car, but I can sure see how lovable they must be to their fans. Am I way off base thinking that this might be a good deal ? And what is that "thing" on the front ? - Carl

Hi '57Bird' ! Lots of people love those '64 CDVs. Me too. Some of them had full leather interiors. Does this one ? What color ? I think a medium, to dark saddle would look classically elegant on this car. Like a white Mercedes with that brown leather some of them had. Does it have the all important A/C ? Tilt 'wheel ? Would any of you interested guys who don't hear very well anymore like me to call the guy and interrogate him for you ? I'm just itching to call him and talk a little Cadillac. Just give me an excuse ! 301-802-4532, Right ? - CC

Hey, this just popped up 1/2 hour ago. I know ZERO about these things. NOTHING AT ALL !!!! I was just surfing, and this caught my attention. I seem to remember that these are a bit hard to find, and this looks like something a VW guy might want to take a look at. Please let me know how you make out, or let me know if I should delete this. Like I said, I KNOW NOTHING. Is that a decent price for you ? - Carl

Any luck, Wayne ? And have you been able to get off the beach yet ? - Carl

Perhaps Layden's is a year or two newer. The line from the radiator to the windshield is a straight line. With Greg's Cadillac, the cowl curves up to meet the windshield. - Carl

Any diagnosis or further insights ? - Carl

As a guy who has ALWAYS loved the big High Classic Era sedans, the obvious luxury of this Packard checks all the boxes. This displays the best of a well-earned, and well-preserved patina. The definitive example of what otherwise is an over-used word, often a misplaced excuse for damage, some quite severe. THIS is patina. Too bad we can not communicate aroma !!! Another great one from you, Tom. - Carl P.S. If you don't mind a suggestion : I have noticed that your automotive photography portrays a false and unattractive stance to your subjects. This is because they are taken through a slightly telephoto lens. That magnifies the more distant end of the cars, making the cars appear ungainly. The farther wheel/tire must be SMALLER than the closer one. Better a VERY SLIGHT wide angle lens, if not normal focal length, than any degree of telephoto whatsoever. Please don't shoot the messenger, I greatly admire you and your cars. Please do them photographic justice. Best of luck with all your sales. - CC

Yes, it is precisely the intuitive confusion which lulled me into complacency. Cold running requires lower viscosity, right ? But say a somewhat tired old engine developed in the 'teens or'20s, is to be used for hours and hours. Now fully warmed up. Water temp 150 - 170. Oil temp 115 - 135. Old engine would like to be running, say, in a single viscosity, 40. Diligent owner is using a popular 10W/40, or 15W/40. Great pick for a modern high speed engine, more efficiently running at a much higher operating temp. Aided by a thermostatically controlled pressurized cooling system. Perhaps not so appropriate for the oldie which would like the heavier single viscosity. Like my old Cadillacs, and most of the Brass through Nickel cars we all love to tour. BUT : the multi viscosity oil running cool, may have the properties of, say a 20, or 25. That is where the temperature /viscosity curve indicates, say at an oil temp of 120. It will not have warmed up to the part of the curve which gives a 40 equivalency. That is what Grimy and I are talking about. I crave full synthetic, multi grade engin...................... HOLD HOSSES !!!!!! JUST GOT NOTIFICATION GRIMY HAS WEIGHED IN. I am sure he will be explaining far better than I. Let me see his offering. TBC, - CC

Also, from my experience with the '24 and '27 Cadillacs,(inherently cool running engines), I concur with Grimy's temperature assessments. I monitor oil temp at the filters, (full-flow 40 micron on the '24, 21 micron bypass on the '27). Maybe around 110 cruising around cool Seattle in the '24. Similar in the'27, but up to 140 or so under good load in 'Vegas in late June, with ambient temperature above 100, and hot pavement in the afternoon radiating heat up into the mechanicals. Looking at temperature/viscosity graphs of multi-viscosity oils, it is obvious that Grimy's concerns are well-founded. Penrite make some quite heavy multi-viscosity oils specifically for old, slow turning engines. IIRC, something on the order of 40W/70. I used to consider that oil to be far too heavy. Now I see some validity to that range. Recently, I have been thinking along exactly the same lines as Grimy, and now plan to blend up 20W/50 Amsoil Z-Rod with a VI improver. Target is around 25W/70. As most of you know, I have been a synthetic fanatic for something like 35+ years. And I fully understand the point many people make, which argues that any modern oil is better than any oil was in the pre-war times our cars were new. If the contention is that any modern oil is "good enough", hey ! I get that too. Is there supporting evidence that the very best engine oil available is demonstrably better than "good enough" in an ancient, low speed, cool running engine ? I'll leave that to others to decide. Because, I really don't care. The difference in cost for a once every year or so oil change is so minimal, that I will pay it. Then I don't have to waste time figuring out the "good enough" threshold. AND, all engines have hotspots, and any engine is susceptible to accidental overheat. The best quality synthetics (Yes, all synthetics are not created equal), have significantly higher flashpoints than the conventional mix of broken polymers looking for oxygen to link up with. I am far from alone in thinking that my engines deserve the very best. So please forgive me, Terry. At this time I have nothing "to say about this". In a world, and on a forum which includes real experts like Brian, I avail myself of their expertise and let them do my thinking and speaking for me when appropriate. As you select break in, and other lubricants, I suggest you spend a little time on the Amsoil site. I have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with that company, and would drop them like a hot exhaust manifold if someone could prove there are better lubricants. Please enjoy their rather complete explanation of concerns in developing their own break in oil. See what they have, in my stead, "to say about this". It will take a little of the mystery out of the selection of a marvelous product. Take it or leave it. - Carl

Thank you VERY much, Brian for your REALITY based information. - Carl

Thanks for pointing out the confusing "Newark" location, Bob. I will go back to edit and. clarify. The cheap flight from Seattle to Newark saves bucks. It was also at a convenient time. Plus, I really like to drive, so getting the chance to explore while enjoying the colorful leaves in a new AWD Cadillac is a real bonus. Hey, man, I sure hope you are real happy with Frank Pepes. With all my health problems, I am not supposed to eat things like cheezy, greezy pizza. Far as I am concerned, a Frank Pepe pizza is a pie to die for !!! - CC

Deep dish what ? Sadly, I have not been "home" since late Sept. - early Oct. of 2012. I had to go back to help my step-grandmother with a "problem" she was having with an automobile insurance company. You can see her in the first picture with "The Doll", a.k.a. "The Devil With the Blue Dress on". To give that devil seldom deserved credit, I could not have made the trip without her. But that is another story, we had a very good time. I'll get back to this shortly. The significance of the second picture is only to present credentials. That is The Midway looking East, as any South-Sider knows. I was born in a hospital just across the street behind the tree line to the far left back in nineteen and forty-four. Couple blocks farther to the left is E. 57th street. The third picture indemnifies me against any charges of misappropriation of AACA forums into irrelevant rot. That picture is at the East end of E. 57th street, approaching the Museum of Science and Industry. There is only one person on Earth who would be able to identify the now "Antique Car" I am driving on that unusually warm early Fall late afternoon. Since I am sure he has several other pressing issues to deal with, I shall relieve the identity sleuth of the responsibility of identifying my evidence. I hope the moderators recognize that this is a 1990 Cadillac 60 Special. My step-grandmother's car. Dark blue with matching leather. See, it only had 60,000 miles on it. Lived all its life in the heated garage of The Edgewater up on Sheridan. NEVER driven in the Winter, Angelica always Wintered in Chile where she was born. So it was in extraordinarily good condition. ZERO rust. IN CHICAGO !!!!!!!!!! And therein was the basis of the insurance "problem". Angelica had been insured for 22 years with the same company. By this time, the comprehensive insurance she was carrying might have been considered overkill. First time in her entire life she ever presented a claim to her insurance company. They wanted to devalue the Cadillac, total it, and give her a fraction of the repair bill. No real BIG deal, but you know.............. And I always welcome the opportunity to come to the aid of a damsel in distress. Especially if she is my grandmother. I was diligent, provided the insurance company everything they asked for, and proved my case. It was a little more dramatic than that, and became somewhat fun. We were granted an audience with a potentate way high up in the executive level of the insurance building. (You shouldda seen the security we had to go through !). Anyway, exec. listened carefully, and promised to research the relevance of the name I dropped. Payment in full was delivered forthwith. "Devil Doll" got to experience a Chicago tourists never touch. And we ate well. And I gotta 'fess-up. We did Uno. Now, I was gonna say something which could possibly lead to a confrontational situation with my very own esteemed forum friends. Deep dish vs. traditional Pizza Napolitano verges on the animosity level of our lamentably polarized society. So let me say that I don't really care very much what anybody else eats, or who they vote for. We are all friends here, and rightly so. But my dad was born in Chicago in 1915, and he hung out with plenty of "Sigilianos" and "Napolitanos". Uh, wait a minute : I was just about to refer to my initial question, but decorum and high regard for my friends here leads me to leave the subject hanging. To present a food subject upon which we can all agree, this is a perfect segue to the fourth picture. Ever heard of a "Seattle Dog" ? Huh ? No ? Got cream cheese on it ? Sheeeeeeee.................... !!!!!! Ever been to this pictured dog joint there in Chicago on Clark Street ? If "momma" is in the window, DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT TAKING YOUR CHILDREN IN THERE. Ever had a Chicago cop pull you over and cuss you out, but give you a pass on the ticket ? I LOVE that particular form of punishment. By comparison with THIS "doggy doll", that Chicago cop speaks The Queen's English. Now, my "doll" and I had absolutely no idea whatsoever what was going on the in there. We just wanted to eat some legitimate Chicago sausages. We just walked in from the street. Evidently, this is somewhat of a tourist attraction. The customer is taking a video, as are others. I sure don't think I need a model release to post this picture. I bet "momma" wishes I had a sound track to go with it ! So if I was starting to come close to fanning the flames of a pizza war, I think we can all agree on "Chicago Dogs". Riiiiight ? - Cadillac Carl

Hi Billy ! They have white pies. Try a white clam pie ! - CC

Well maybe, Bob. But just like snowflakes, every Frank Pepe pizza is unique. Hand tossed, and cooked quickly in a very high temperature coal fired oven, that oven being the same one which has cooked those pies since 1925. That production technique does, indeed, produce some asymmetry to a greater or lesser degree. Part of the charm. Imagine if every pie were a perfect circular disc, each one a cookie cutter duplicate version of every other one. I guess a machine could be programmed to do that. I'm here to tell you that seconds after this picture was taken, I got into said delicacy. Sampled each side, and lit out for the Tappan Zee Bridge on my why to Newark. Returned the Cadillac, ate a bit more, and carefully and thoroughly wrapped the remains for transcontinental delivery to Sandy. She didn't know what was coming, but what a wonderful surprise for her ! We had been to Pepes many years earlier. In order to comply with the spirit and purpose of AACA, I will encourage all who read this to imagine what spectacular NEW cars must have pulled up to 157 Wooster St., New Haven, CT back in the '20s and'30s. Drive your OLD car there. Ample parking. www.pepespizzeria.com. Tell 'em you were sent by : - Cadillac Carl