Guest earthworm Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 At Hershey this year a 1908,I think, Mora was on display - a rather large 4 place rag top, and no windscreen (optional at extra cost).What an impressive engine, a big six cast two cylinders at a time..On the radiator, or on a decal was Mora... Rome, New York. Their radiators were made in Rome, NY, but the car itself was built in Newark, NY..The woman in the drivers seat told me this was the one of two known from an original build quantity of 1,800....Does anyone else have some better info...Google did lead to one good article on the misadventures of Toomey, Mora, Birdsall. It must have been quite a time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 While talking to the owners, I believe it was mentioned that this car was the only one known to have the 6 cyl. BTW, I went to school with the lady you talked to. The car was built about 15 miles from were we grew up. I can put you in touch again with the owners, I doubt you'll find anyone with more infromation about Mora than they provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Hello, Earthworm...Welcome to the Forum.In addition to forum participants responses, you could also try the AACA Library & Research Center. (On the home page, click on "Library" and self explanatory research instructions are there.)Regards,Peter J... <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest earthworm Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Thank you for the responses, Novaman and Peter.Yes I would love more info on the Mora - the lady behind the wheel handled all so well.I just wish I had stayed around to hear the Mora run. I think I may invest in membership in the AACA, the show alone is worth it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-weight: bold">the show alone is worth it....</span> </div></div> Not even speaking of our excellent magazine! You could have gotten a freeby at the Library/Headquarters tent! Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clincher Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Four cylinder MORA is pretty impressive. The six cylinder must be really spectacular. Any pics available of the six cylinder MORA engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve_Heald Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 OK. After several years of "lurking" on this forum, I have finally jumped in because this subject is near and dear to my heart. The car being discussed here belongs to me and my wife. We have shown our '12 Maxwell for the last 5 years, earning a Repeat Sr. Grand National. This was our first time out with the Mora at a National meet, and our first time in HPOF. What a thrill! If I can figure out how to post a picture of the engine, I will, otherwise, perhaps one of the 4,000 people who took a picture of our car on Saturday could do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Steve, Welcome!!!! I was judging and didn't get to see your car, but I sure would love to see photos. If no one has any then you can contact me and I will post them for you. It really is not hard to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted October 10, 2006 Share Posted October 10, 2006 Good to see you un-lurk Steve. I enjoyed our time visiting, and hope I get a rain-check on my ride in the Mora. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Steve, Welcome to the "un-lurking side" of the forum. If you email me the photo I'll get it posted for you. If you have others you'd like posted, send them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 SteveI was hoping you'd pipe in. Attached are a few photos from our "up close and personal" photo shoot. Thanks for your time.West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 'nother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 and the last (you'll have to wait for the feature in Antique Automobile for the rest). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronbarn Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 West, Thanks for the photos. This is a marvelous car and am waiting for the article. Meanwhile, could you or the owner (welcome to your un-lurking!) please explain the "gadget" just forward of the magneto that has six "terminals" around the upper edge and wires going back to the dash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Thanks for the photos West! Ron, that gizmo looks like a timer of the battery ignition system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Oh, I thought the "set of magnets" in front of the distributer cap was a "magneto" ignition? Enlighten me, as I know nothing about these vehicles. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve_Heald Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 I'll add my thanks to West for posting the pictures. I couldn't find just the right engine shot to post, but West came through. We were very honored to have the opportunity to be photographed for Antique Automobile. As 1937hd45 states, the gadget-gizmo is the timer. This car features double-independent ignition, meaning it can run on the battery-coils, or magneto, or both at the same time given its 2 spark plugs per cylinder. The linkages to keep everything in time are a marvel to behold.If you want another in-person look at this car, it is part of the "Top Brass" display set to open in November at the AACA Museum. I believe they plan to display it with the hood open on the ignition side of the engine. Also, I've tried my hand at attaching another photo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EMF-Owner Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Steve,Welcome to the Forum! It is good to have another E-M-F Owner join in! I knew you had the E-M-F, but this Mora is really impressive. Thanks to Steve and West for the pictures!John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Steve, Thanks for joining the Forum, the Mora is a great car thanks for bringing it to Hershey. I'm sure West will cover the cars history in the upcoming AA feature, but I have a few questions. How many owners has it has since new? Was the hood bare aluminum since new? The car is great, just add oil & gas and keep the brass polished. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steve_Heald Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Thanks to all for the kind words about "Leota" (we've named her after company-founder Samuel Mora's daughter). The best info we have on its pedigree is that she was sold new to a doctor in Utica, N.Y. He drove her for a few years until she decided to send number 2 rod out the side of the aluminum crankcase. This happened long enough ago to allow for a Mora rod to be found to replace the one that let go. A patch was made, but it was never the same again. It was parked until the War, when it was donated to a scrap drive. The yard owner kept putting it off to the side and eventually the war ended. A gentleman named Walt Meyer purchased it in the late 40's for $35.00 and placed it in his antique auto museum in Bridgewater, N.Y., where it stayed untouched for 40 years. When he passed away, it was sold to a collector in Tucson, AZ where it sat for 15 years. We purchsed it from this man about 2 years ago. Alot of time, money, and emotion have gone into getting it put back together to the point where it is today.Except for a few more brass items that I'd like to make "pop" again, that's all the restoration it will get from me.As for the hood, it was originally painted the dark green of the body, but the early paint on aluminum, and the heat of engine, probably made it fail early on. The earliest photo I have of it is from the early 50's- the hood was already stripped by then. I'd rather not try to fake an old finish on it. The bare metal is a part of its history and I will most likely keep it that way.Sorry for the long post, but you asked. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozierman Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Steve,I too was at hershey this year and took the attached picture of you, your wife and teh Mora as you were driving to get your "official" photo taken.You have a great car. My wife and I have enjoyed you and your wife dressed up with your Maxwell at previous Hershey car shows, but this car is great too, as original as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozierman Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Oops, I forgot to attach the photo. When I tried to add it, I discovered it is too large to load...just over the size limit. Sorry. If you would send me you e-mail address, I'll send it to you directly. Lozierman@Comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtbaron Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 If you want me to downsize the file size of that pic so you can still post it, email it to me at whtbaron@yahoo.com ......put something about this site in the title in case it ends up in my junk mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whtbaron Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Not sure if you guys got your pics back, so I'll post them here just in case...nice shots Lozierman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Steve_Heald Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Thanks very much to Lozierman and whtbaron for posting the latest pictures. On a related note, the 10/23 issue of Autoweek magazine has a couple of articles about the car at the Mora Centennial Celebration held this past August. Go to www.autoweek.com if you're interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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