Steven Meixner Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Front motor, RS exhaust. RB brackets have 277 cast in. Rear spring bracket has 188. I feel to wide and short for cycle car. What is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Very early Paige-Detroits had a transverse rear spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 What do we have on right end, appear to be curved spring saddles although that does not make sense? The bar and cotter pin at cross ember is for what? I see running board brackets appear to be cast to take a RB support rod across underneath of car (my '31 Chevrolet had one on those, although I know it is not of that vintage). Those unusual heavy powertrain side supports (motor/bellhousing/trans) should tell us something? More to this story than meets the eye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Whatever this is the rear suspension and wheel base looks about right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) Cantilevered rear spring makes sense (curved saddles in OP may be upside down) but based on overall frame length of 106", that would still leave wheelbase about 80" or so (assuming springs are 30" long (14"-15" either side of axle), which is pretty short, and this photo just posted appear to have at least 105"-115" WB. Likely a very short early car. Suggest looking for something with about an 80" WB like this 1904 Wilson Pilcher (British). Edited June 28, 2022 by Gunsmoke added pictures (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Meixner Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 The car 28 Chrysler posted is way to big. There is a small chance it's European, but I found this in the middle of nowhere North Dakota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 WAG Hupmobile model 32 ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, Layden B said: WAG Hupmobile model 32 ??? Or the preceding Model 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 Those engine mounts might even be something with a big opposed twin engine like a Northern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Meixner Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 Layden is onto something. Hups had a rear cross leaf, both Model 32 and 20. RB brackets to far apart for 20. The 1 picture of a 32 rear crossmember spring mount I found appeared different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 I'm inclined to agree with 1912Staver, that it had a 2-cylinder horizontal opposed engine. The rear spring mount does not mean it had to have a transverse spring. It could have had what they called a "platform" spring...with the ends supporting the conventional half elliptic springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Meixner Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 JV, if you mean it had springs like a Cadillac Model 30, there are no mounts on the side of the frame forward of the rear axle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV Puleo Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 OK...then it must have had a transverse spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gillingham Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Is it possible to measure an approximate wheelbase? It's just that something approximate may help. I'm guessing the rear axle sat in front of the rear spring mount. I can't see if the front-rear spring hangers are there or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Meixner Posted June 30, 2022 Author Share Posted June 30, 2022 Assuming the rear axle is centered under the crossmember, I would guess the wheelbase at 86". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modela28 Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 On 6/28/2022 at 12:46 PM, 28 Chrysler said: Whatever this is the rear suspension and wheel base looks about right. I believe this is a photo of a Maytag automobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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