Servicing a 1908 international Harvester Auto Buggy

[Paul Dobbin]

Spent the day today with friends trying to get a 1908 IH Auto Buggy of another friend up and running,

I have a few questions:

# 1   What is the crankcase oil capacity ?   Where is the oil filler neck? 

# 2   Is the timer shaft splined?  Can it be pulled out and turned?

# 3   Are there any good manuals for them?

We did get it started, but way out of time, further than the sparks advance could fix,

 

 

 

[37_Roadmaster_C]

I have no help on your questions, but that is a VERY good looking rig for being 114 years old!!!

[rocketraider]

You wanna have some fun call yer local Case-IH service department.😏

[Trulyvintage]

Give me a call tomorrow and I will 

put you in touch with my friend 

who can answer all your questions 📞

 

 

Jim

260-804-6695

[oldcarfudd]

Many one-or two-cylinder cars of that era didn't have an oil sump in the crankcase.  They had an external oil tank, and pumped (or just plain dripped) oil through tubes to engine bearings and the pistons.  The oil got sloshed around and leaked out all kinds of places - by design.  You never changed the oil, you just added it, often at the rate of a quart in 50 (that's not a typo!) miles or so.  Everything under the car marinated in leaked oil, and it dripped all over the road (to say nothing of your driveway and garage floor).  And this was big-name cars, not just shade-tree designs.  The two-cylinder Buick and one-cylinder Cadillac and Oldsmobile work this way.  And it's a dependable system.  Just don't walk past your car wearing your best suit!

[3makes]

The above post is very true, especially the last sentence. I know from experience.

[Mark Gregush]

Maybe this will help;

International auto buggies and auto wagons : International Harvester Company of America : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

[Mark Shaw]

Contact phone # sent for Frank Schurman in OR.

Edited January 7, 2022 by Mark Shaw (see edit history)

[Mark Gregush]

On: Smokstak in the automobile section there are a number of posting dealing with the International High Wheelers;   Smokstak® Antique Engine Community

[Mark Gregush]

https://www.smokstak.com/forum/threads/ihc-autowagon-almost-done.219255/

[Paul Dobbin]

 

 

Thank you all for your assistance.   The car picture in my original post was in a museum form 1960 to recently.   It has the original upholstery, top, leather splash shields, body and paint, including the faded pin-striping.  Amazing!   The wheels appear to be repainted and re-rubbered.   We don't know how long it's been without having the engine run,  It does now..   It has a external oil reservoir with about ten oil lines to key places for lubrication.   No crank case full of oil, just add a half pint every 50 miles.  There is even a buggy whip holder by the drivers foot.

Soon we hope it will be drivable again.

[TAKerry]

On 1/7/2022 at 9:51 AM, oldcarfudd said:

Many one-or two-cylinder cars of that era didn't have an oil sump in the crankcase.  They had an external oil tank, and pumped (or just plain dripped) oil through tubes to engine bearings and the pistons.  The oil got sloshed around and leaked out all kinds of places - by design.  You never changed the oil, you just added it, often at the rate of a quart in 50 (that's not a typo!) miles or so.  Everything under the car marinated in leaked oil, and it dripped all over the road (to say nothing of your driveway and garage floor).  And this was big-name cars, not just shade-tree designs.  The two-cylinder Buick and one-cylinder Cadillac and Oldsmobile work this way.  And it's a dependable system.  Just don't walk past your car wearing your best suit!

My brother has a 1913 single cylinder rudge motorcycle. The above is typical of motorcycles from that period. Total loss oil system. In the owners manual it states something to the effect that once you stop seeing smoke behind its time to pump the oil again!