Patrick J Reeve Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Good evening. My guys and I are looking for a 25 inch rim for a 1917 d45. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Patrick 315-663-1569 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I have a 1916 D-45 and the 1917 D-45 share the same wheels. They are Baker wheels and the standard wheel was 24 inches. There was a factory option for 26 inch wheels on these cars. In the 58+ years that I have been exposed to these Buick models I have never, ever seen a D-Series car with the 26 inch wheels. Please check your tire size and let us know what you have. If you have a car with the 26 inch wheels then you just might have the only one in captivity. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Engle Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I would like someone to define the dimensions on these wheels. My 17-D45 has 34X4 tires. The metal band on the wood wheels is 25". What do I have?? Bob Engle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMicheletti Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 34 x 4's have a 26" rim. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Engle Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Does this mean mean I have the only one in existance ???? My car just went up in value at least $10.00 per wheel. Spare included $50!!! Bob Engle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Robert Engle said: What do I have?? Something that's difficult to find tires for. I should know. I have a non-Buick that takes that size. I have been looking for some 34x4 tires good enough to roll the chassis around the shop for several years now. Edited October 1, 2021 by Bloo (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Bob, You most definitely get the Gold Star for the day. The standard wheel size for these cars was 24 inches. The standard tread was 56 inches. The sales brochures that I have lists optional wheel size as 26 inches and an optional tread width of 60 inches. If I were you I would check the tread on the rear axle since you have 26 inch wheels. You may have a rarity on your hands. I remember the late Dave Chambers telling me that larger wheeled and wider tread cars were pretty much sold in the Southern part of the country to accommodate the back country farm wagon roads. Where are you located? - OH, you're in Virginia. What a coincidence! Patrick still needs to tell us what size tires are on his car. 25 inches is not the right answer for a 1917 D-45 with the correct axles on the car. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Engle Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 The outside to outside of tires on the rear is 60". I bought this car from a man in Michigan. He owned the car for 5 years and never drove it. just kept it in a heated garage. He bought the car from California. The car came with three sets of license plates, 1917 California, California Horseless carriage #28. (In the 50's California went to the horseless carriage plates for antique vehicles. They were sequentially numbered for the first year. After that they were unnumbered registrations. The third set of plates was Michigan Antique plates. I found a good home for that set of plates. The car serial # is 191818. Too bad it wasn't one car earlier, 191817 would have been a great number to have. Bob Engle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Heil Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 I have two 5.00 x 24 B. F. Goodrich balloon tires. Too good to throw out. Would make great spares or help get a project to the roller phase. PM me if interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Bob, You need to have someone help you take the measurement. You will want to get a measurement from the very center of one tire to the very center of the other tire. This will get you close enough to tell if you have a 56 inch tread axle or a 60 inch tread axle. I hope Patrick will tell us what the tire size is that fits the rim he is looking for. This way he will know exactly what they are needing. If this car that you have turns out to have 60 inch tread axles, you are going to be the owner of one very scarce D-45. This will be the first one that I have ever heard of. Keep your fingers crossed. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Engle Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 My measurement center to center on the tires is 56". I looked up the part numbers for the two different housings, but I can't find any numbers on either housings that I have. Bob Engle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepcak Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) For whatever it is worth, my 1917 D45 came on 34x4 tires (dia 26" measured as the bottom of the flat rim base what defines a "wheel /=rim/ size" when searching for a tire). My car originates from Maryland if fhat helps. 34x4 tires should be still relatively easily obtainable in several executions. Wolfgang P. in Austria has been recently selling some used tires from his 1918 car, yet this was in Europe and seems they are already gone. https://www.cokertire.com/tires/34x4-firestone-non-skid-all-black.html https://www.lucasclassictires.com/34x4-LUCAS-Olympic-Tread-Blackwall-410p.htm https://www.lucasclassictires.com/34x4-Universal-Blackwall-413p.htm https://www.vintagetyres.com/shop/lester-straight-sided-34x4-4-00x26 https://www.cokertire.com/tires/34x4-bf-goodrich-cord-blackwall.html Looking into parts catalogue dated Oct 1915 (1916 model year) it lists two versions of rear axle housings (SA housing w/ welded on tubes), #64634 for 56" thread and #64635 for 60" thread. Similarly for front axle beam, #64648 for 56" and 64649 for 60" thread. In the "DEMOUNTABLE RIMS" chapter the catalogue calls out "Demountable rim assembly, straight side, 32"x4". In the "TIRES" chapter the catalogue only calls out "Order 34"x4" straight side type". That does not seem like matching information, but supports what Terry mentioned. Using this opportunity, I would also like to ask if anybody on this thread has an extra useable Baker 26" flat base rim that he can part with, I am missing one..... Thanks, Josef Edited October 3, 2021 by pepcak (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Patrick Reeve needs to come back on here and tell us what the tire size is for the rim that he is needing. The photo of the rim that Josef posted is the correct style of rim for a Baker wheel. The 1916 and 1917 D-45's used a 24 inch wheel OR a 26 inch wheel. Mr. Reeve, which one of these are you needing? A 25 inch rim is not what you are needing IF you have the correct wheels on your car. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick J Reeve Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 Hello everyone. I'm sorry for the slow response on here. Between my son and I working full time and weird hours in our shop and taking care of my parents( my mother is fully disabled) it makes it difficult for me to get on the web site. Especially since I don't have a smart phone. I put my phone number because that's the best way to get a hold of me, but I should have checked up on here before now. With all of that said, the car has 26 inch wheels. 34x4 tires. It is also the 56 inch track width. I really do appreciate everyones help and advice and patience also. With all of that said, I am still in need of a 26 rim and also a used tire (doesn't have to be in nice shape) , Thank you , Patrick 315-663-1569 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Wiegand Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Patrick, Thank you for clearing that up for us. I can now say that I know of 2 D-45's that have 26 inch wheels. That rim is going to be a hard one to find in my humble opinion. Terry Wiegand South Hutchinson, Kansas AACA Life Member #947918 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepcak Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 ....purely technically, there are 3 D-45s with 26" wheels on this thread and two of them need one Baker rim 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian_Heil Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Go to Hershey this week. There is a guy who brings a semi trailer of early rims every year. You have to know what you are looking for. Many are unmarked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibarlaw Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 That would be Vin Cassidy in the red field. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepcak Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Is there any chance for guy from Europe to get in touch with Vin? I know what I am looking for yet Hershey is few thousands kilometers / miles apart..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick J Reeve Posted October 5, 2021 Author Share Posted October 5, 2021 Thank you to everyone who gave me info on this topic. I appreciate the location from Larry, hopefully we will see you in the next couple days! To pepcak - pm me if as of Tuesday night if you’re still in need of a rim. If I find more than one I can grab it for you just let me know your price range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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