Saltbush Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I've looked at so mamy 1926 to 1930 cars looking for this radiator shell. Even if it is the two coins logo, I'm not matching the radiator shell. Pontiac had some fluting on their shells. Would have been a 270 mile drive (434 km) on dirt roads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 My first thought is a 25 Willys Overland, but I can’t find any pictures with cowl lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldford Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I agree with 25 or 26 Overland. This car is from Australia, so they may have had cowl lights, just a guess... Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I have to disagree re Overland. Check out these two, a sedan in the US and a touring in Oz. Lots of differences - radiator shape, radiator badge and, most obviously the height of the head lamp cross bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 I still have no idea what it is though. Can't be too hard to work out. Not a big car, and note it has no front brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Willys Overland and the cheaper model called Whippet are two very different cars. Your two pictures are Whippets not the car I had in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 From the internet... https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.hemmings.com%2Fstory_image%2F627465-1579-0%402x.jpg%3Frev%3D1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hemmings.com%2Fmagazine%2Fhcc%2F2018%2F07%2FRoadster-Recovery---1925-Willys-Overland-Model-91-Roadster%2F3751834.html&docid=WhKC2IVL2Z6FHM&tbnid=owV4hDe2FKb5kM%3A&vet=1&w=1579&h=1112&hl=en-us&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim This is the one I had in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mark Wetherbee said: Willys Overland and the cheaper model called Whippet are two very different cars. Your two pictures are Whippets not the car I had in mind They are NOT Whippets, they are Overland Sixes from the 'pre' Whippet' era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Mark Wetherbee said: From the internet... https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.hemmings.com%2Fstory_image%2F627465-1579-0%402x.jpg%3Frev%3D1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hemmings.com%2Fmagazine%2Fhcc%2F2018%2F07%2FRoadster-Recovery---1925-Willys-Overland-Model-91-Roadster%2F3751834.html&docid=WhKC2IVL2Z6FHM&tbnid=owV4hDe2FKb5kM%3A&vet=1&w=1579&h=1112&hl=en-us&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim This is the one I had in mind That is an entirely different model, from an earlier era. Note it has the 'bent transverse front spring' which was used on the low, price Overland from about 1919 to 1925. It was a model intended to compete with the Ford T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Good point, I was too focused on the fenders and upper shape of the radiator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbush Posted January 11, 2019 Author Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, nzcarnerd said: I still have no idea what it is though. Can't be too hard to work out. Not a big car, and note it has no front brakes. You'd think so wouldn't you, but I've scoured through major and defunct makes for hours looking for that front without joy. Edited January 12, 2019 by Saltbush (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Saltbush said: You'd think so wouldn'y you, but I've scoured through major and defunct makes for hours looking for that front without joy. I wondered if it was something from Chandler/Cleveland but I don't think they did anything that small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gillingham Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) I looked up the SA registration records up to 1927, but 60525 isn't listed. If you had a family name or if you knew the area or district where the car was, it may help? http://www.familytreeoz.com/search-ancestry-records.html?view=genList&id=17 Edited January 11, 2019 by Craig Gillingham (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbush Posted January 12, 2019 Author Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Around Blyth, South Australia. These are from photos collected by a long time resident from established old time families in the district. These came to him from Rhonda Gill, so her ancestors. That can include Kybunga, Hart, Brinkworth, Clare ..... Hi Allan Thanks for latest batch. This Rhonda’s maiden name was Cocks –from Snowtown. She married Rod Gill from Bute. Edited January 12, 2019 by Saltbush (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Who had the two flags side by side in their emblem? Edited January 12, 2019 by Spinneyhill (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stude17 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 (edited) Perhaps a 1925 Nash Roadster? No doubt there would be some variations in the Australian bodied version. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_Motors#/media/File:1922-nash-001.jpg Edited January 12, 2019 by Stude17 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 that 1922 Nash Roadster doesn't have the ridge along the shoulder of the body. Other models on that link do, but not like the OP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I was just reading this post - - and thought the front of the car looked familiar. I hadn't realised Cleveland did a 'small' car but a quick look at The Standard Catalog shows that in their last year - 1926 - they did a Model 31 on a 108 1/2" wheelbase. Whaddaya reckon? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 More here re Cleveland. The engine in the Model 31 was a small side valve six, built by Chandler/Cleveland - 2 7/8 x 4 1/4, 165 cubes, 45 hp. The factory appears not to have built a roadster but I guess our mystery car might have A body built in Australia by Holdens - later to become part of GM. https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=DspZDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq="Cleveland+Model+31"&source=bl&ots=Nhgf-8KDN7&sig=jeUUsvEuyjZMjkZI5_2TdRAidI4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjnjLjdxevfAhUUbn0KHaDYB58Q6AEwB3oECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q="Cleveland Model 31"&f=false Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwells Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Mark, I'm seeing too many differences to be convinced. Rad emblem for one and the front of the fenders. Look at the bottom of the rad shell in both pics. The bumper on the OP's pic is also rather distinctive, although I admit it could an aftermarket item. Thumbs down from me on this ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbush Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) many thanks nzcarnerd Edited January 14, 2019 by Saltbush (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 You are right Saltbush,it`s a Cleveland probebly 1925. Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, Leif Holmberg said: You are right Saltbush,it`s a Cleveland probebly 1925. Leif in Sweden. The most distinctive feature is the head lamp cross bar being so low down, relative to the radiator. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbush Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 This turned up on a Mt Gambier FB page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Looks close to Morris 1936-1937,but this car dosen`t seems to have "suisides"doors as most of the Morris have,?and it seems to be a 2 seat coupe model as well.Body built in AU? Leif in Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltbush Posted January 16, 2019 Author Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) A period where only chassis and scuttle forward were allowed to be imported, in order to foster local body builders. Protectionism. Hence Australia has some car body variations not seen in North America or Europe. Edited January 16, 2019 by Saltbush (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Saltbush said: A period where only chassis and scuttle forward were allowed to be imported, in order to foster local body builders. Protectionism. Hence Australia has some car body variations not seen in North America or Europe. Agreed. Also I think that it is a 1934 model. A Morris 10/4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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