DShoes Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Hi All. I was going to jump onto Hans3's August thread "Tilt column & signal lever removal 1st Gen" but thought maybe this should be its own turn signal trouble shooter thread. This is for a '65 non-GS Riviera. Yesterday all turn signals indicators (interior and exterior) were working normally. Today, everything is dead. Exterior bulbs are nearly new (replaced this summer) in front and back. Is this likely to be the switch malfunctioning or the relay? Or the actuator in the steering column? Naturally, I'm hoping to start with the path of least resistance. If switch, it sounds as though I can start at the connection points under dash when the male/female connection is made exterior to the steering column? Second stop would be to reach up and around a replace the "Heavy Duty Flasher 1496" relay? (sounds like my last girlfriend's stage name! I kid, I kid) Last option would be to pull the steering wheel and inspect/replace the actuator where the signal arm meets the column? If last option, what steering wheel puller is recommended? Haven't attempted that before and want to get it right with the right tool. As always, appreciate your guys' great help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Go after the flasher first. If you want to test the rest of the switch, wiring and bulbs you can put a jumper wire in place of the flasher and check to see if all is OK otherwise. Obviously the signals will not "flash" with the jumper wire in place. Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KongaMan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Concur; try the flasher first. If you have an old electro-mechanical unit, try rapping on it. It may just be stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShoes Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 Thanks guys. I rapped on the flasher / relay a bit but no joy. Will try replacing and report back. Any tips / tricks for replacing it without pulling the whole dash apart? I'm a little concerned about reaching it and getting the new one aligned properly in order to push it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodayguy Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 The flasher is on the fuse box. Two screws to loosen the panel and you have access. I'd say it's there. There is also a switch connection at the base-ish area of the steering column that maybe came loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShoes Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 56 minutes ago, bodayguy said: The flasher is on the fuse box. Two screws to loosen the panel and you have access. I'd say it's there. There is also a switch connection at the base-ish area of the steering column that maybe came loose. I had the panel off last night but the wiring harness going into it from behind the dash prevented it from coming down to allow access. As such I'm reaching up around for now. Will see if I can change that. Switch connection at the base-ish of the steering column appeared to be working normally and had good cable sheathing. Thanks all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I went thru two or three flashers on mine. I finally put in an electronic one that is really designed for working with LED lighting, and no more problems since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 The first step on any problem like this is to check the fuse for the circuit in question, before you start changing flashers and switches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 hours ago, DShoes said: I had the panel off last night but the wiring harness going into it from behind the dash prevented it from coming down to allow access. As such I'm reaching up around for now. Will see if I can change that. Switch connection at the base-ish of the steering column appeared to be working normally and had good cable sheathing. Thanks all. Push the top of the panel up into the dash and pull the bottom out. This will allow the wiring harness to clear the bottom edge of the opening. As Seafoam states, first be sure the fuse is OK, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShoes Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 Roger that. Good advice. I'll give that try. Agreed on fuse first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneybeauchamp Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 19 hours ago, DShoes said: "Heavy Duty Flasher 1496" relay? (sounds like my last girlfriend's stage name! I kid, I kid) DShoes, we are gonna need pictures, man, pictures before we diagnose anything here. We need to see what she looks like, with a stage name like that ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShoes Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Spoke to the ex (Heavy Duty Flasher pictured) about the problem. She said "Its a blown fuse, you idiot! Now respect the restraining order!." Low and behold...problem solved! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Yeah, but what caused the fuse to blow in the 1st. place???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Can the administrators please remove Dshoes picture posting priveledges?? Please?? That`s frickin` sick bro.... Signed, Half Blind and Finally Liking It 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, DShoes said: Spoke to the ex (Heavy Duty Flasher pictured) about the problem. She said "Its a blown fuse, you idiot! Now respect the restraining order!." Low and behold...problem solved! I figure she could kick start a 747. My eyes, my eyes!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShoes Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, telriv said: Yeah, but what caused the fuse to blow in the 1st. place???? Corroded contact points appear to have caused too much heat build up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DShoes Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, 1965rivgs said: Can the administrators please remove Dshoes picture posting priveledges?? Please?? That`s frickin` sick bro.... Signed, Half Blind and Finally Liking It C'mon 1965rivgs. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Besides, rodneybeauchamp asked, I delivered. Alright no more pictures. Apologies to any sensitive constitutions that may have been offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegart Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I think the next thing to fail is going to be the pole because of too much weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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