Chase392 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hey guys, Anybody know of a good source of info on Stutz firetrucks? I have what I believe is a radiator from one, and possibly a front axle and some seats. Haven't found too many good pictures on the 'net. The front axle and seats will likely end up in my speedster, but since one of my spindles is bad I'd love to know if Stutz made the parts in-house or if it they sourced parts from one of the larger companies. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captndan Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Hemings has a listing on one with some good pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Usually fire apparatus was built by a company that specialized in fire engines and fire trucks. They purchased a chassis and built the fire vehicle around it. It's possible Stutz did make fire vehicles, but I can't find any proof that they did in the Stutz bio. There was a gentleman in our area that swore Ford made his 1929 fire engine until someone showed him the brass plated attached to his vehicle that named the manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I just found a reference to a Stutz Fire Engine Co. 1919-1928, in one of my fire apparatus books, but it doesn't say if it is associated with the Stutz Automobile Co. I wouldn't think the Stutz Automobile company would let another company use it's name or one similar. It probably was a division of Stutz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Is this the Hemmings one referred to ? http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/stutz/unspecified/1932745.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase392 Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 8 hours ago, keiser31 said: Photos? Here are some pics of the parts I have: The striping on the seats is definitely firetruck-esque, but I haven't seen any exact matches. I'm near 100% certain the radiator is from a Stutz.... just not sure what size truck. I don't have any pics of the other side as it is so heavy its tough to move easily. The emblem is missing. The Stutz fire trucks I have seen have large, distinctive looking dust caps on the hubs that appear to clamp on. My front hubs appear very similar if not exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Take a good look at the construction of that radiator, that's when things were built to last. If you showed the people who built that radiator a modern plastic and aluminum radiator they would laugh at it. Mike, you have enough parts to start a restoration project! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Tierney Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Mroz's Ency US Trks/Comm'l Veh states Stutz Fire Engine Co, Ind'pls, IN 1919-1940 "...was only related through Harry Stutz to Stutz Motor Car Co..."... Quite successful in their day, (Mroz referred to the car co as a "sister" company), Harry Stutz lost control in a 1932 reorganization. Referred to by Mroz as specializing in Fire Apparatus, there's no listing in my 1919 and 1920 Power Wagon issues, implying they built only Fire equipment.. Using Wisconsin engines until 1926, when it began using its own 175 HP six, the brief thumbnail has no mention of other outside parts sources. If you're close to a decent pub lib, they may have a copy of Georgano's World Trucks book (the big one, not the little one with just names and adds's) which might have more info. You should also try the fire truck sites; spaamfaa, or something like that, is the only one that comes to mind..oh, there's alfowners, too..many of the members/followers have a variety of equipment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 (edited) There was a Stutz fire engine company run by Harry Stutz of Stutz car fame, I believe this was after he lost control of the car company and was ousted from its management. The two companies were completely separate. I know nothing about the Stutz fire engines but do know something about the industry at the time. There is a strong possibility, better than 50% certainly, that Stutz bought axles and other parts from outside suppliers. Every body did, except for the industry giants. The Stutz car was an assembled car using engines from Wisconsin, and transaxles from Stutz' own Ideal company. I don't know who made the chassis and front axle but it was some outside supplier. Edited April 1, 2017 by Rusty_OToole (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen_Dyneto Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 I forget the details that accompanied this photo, but hope it's useful to your query. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Dave Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Those Headlights look like early electric Corcoran's similar to what I have on my 1915 Buick. Cadillac also used them early on. Dandy Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Not much info on Stutz fire engines on the net. I did find out that for the first few years they used proprietary engines but eventually built their own. And that they made about 100 units a year. These facts reinforce the idea that axles, frames etc. were bought from specialists in those areas, and assembled by Stutz. There are a couple of books on Stutz fire apparatus that might give more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalowed Bill Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 If my memory servers me right, the Lemay family collection has a beautifully restored Stutz fire truck. This is not the museum, which if separate from the family collection. It was one of the last restorations done while Harold was still alive. If I'm wrong I'm sure that someone reading this can verify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Shaw Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 In 2016 we visited a local Vancouver WA area family with a large fire truck collection. One was a fully restored Stutz. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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