Guest pappy Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum and just bought a 1938 Dodge sedan. I'd like to restore it as close to original as possible. I'll have a lot of questions for you all so please be patient with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Welcome and youve come to the right place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Welcome, Dodge Brother! You have come to the right place for the best information and like-thinking hobbyists. Please feel free to post photos of your car so we can see what you have. Most on here are very helpful in providing information and parts. Thanks for looking into this forum. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Welcome aboard Pappy! I'm so glad you're going to restore your '38 Dodge as stock. Most parts should be fairly easy to obtain. That was a very well built car in it's day. Try to start with a good clean fuel tank... as that's where a lot of trouble begins. We'll be here to try and help with any questions that may arise!---Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Thanks for the welcome Gents. I'll get some pictures posted as soon as my photographer (wife) has time to take some. The car is pretty much intact and the motor turns over freely by hand. The first order of business is to try to get it running. Does anyone have a wiring diagram? Right now it's wired through a push button under the dash. I charged the battery but couldn't get it to turn over. I'm a paint and body guy, so when it comes to wiring unless I have someone to hod my hand I'm pretty much lost. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Welcome to the forum, pappy. It really is good to hear that another Dodge Brothers car is to be saved as stock. If you think the first thing to do is to get the engine running it might save you a lot of trouble later on if you give it an oil change first - old oil left sitting in the pan for years degrades and is bad news for your bearings which may otherwise be o.k. Also, when you do change the oil, may I suggest you go for an oil that is suitable for old engines as the modern oils have powerful detergents in them which will loosen carbon deposits, sediments etc. Have fun!Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Some pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Greenlaw Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Welcome Pappy,Looks like an interesting project and I'm sure everyone will look forward to progress pics. We love pics !!!!!CheersIan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgy6 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Welcome Pappy!Looks like you got yourself equal parts of good times and headaches there. Gotta sat that is one good looking front end on your beast. Well done for choosing the full original resto route - seems to be the road less travelled these days.Don't be shy in asking questions - we all learn something along the way, (some more than others...).Ross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgy6 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Funny how the world works.... just came across this one on Aussie E-thing. Start copy and pasting those pics Pappy!1938 Dodge sedan | eBay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Just been looking at those '38 shots, Ross. $4000 seems a bit steep for a vinyl retrim but I may be out of touch with the prices. I would have done it in leather but then it really can get pricey. It's not that hard to do it yourself but is very time consuming. Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hwess Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hi everyone. I'm new to the forum and just bought a 1938 Dodge sedan. I'd like to restore it as close to original as possible. I'll have a lot of questions for you all so please be patient with me. If you wanna see a 38 come to the show at Macungie,PA this coming Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeC5 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Welcome Pappy. That sure looks like a solid start. Good luck with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Thanks everyone, It's not as rough as it looks and it's all there. The interior is all finished it just needs installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 If you wanna see a 38 come to the show at Macungie,PA this coming Sunday.Can you give me a time and place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danceswithpumps Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Welcome aboard, Pappy! Gr8 looking car! A wealth of knowledge can be found here so don't be shy in asking for advice, parts, or anything. We love seeing these old DBs brought back to life. We also love pics so keep us posted on your progress.Enjoy your DB!Rod van Pelt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Did you get that wiring diagram, it has been posted here for the 38 model before. I can scan it if need be and post it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1936 D2 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Can you give me a time and place?Here's the web site: 49th Das Awkscht Fescht - August 3rd, 4th & 5th - 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 That's a real nice, solid car. We are all looking forward to your work. Great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Did you get that wiring diagram, it has been posted here for the 38 model before. I can scan it if need be and post itI haven't gotten one yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1930 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Here you go, it is a two page deal so it cannot be scanned on a single swipe, I would encourage you to get a shop manual for the car, they are avail as re-prints if you wish not too purchase an original copy if an when it pops up . This service manual will answer alot of your questions, I would also encourage you to purchase manuals literature that are within a couple of years of your car so that you can become familiar with what information interchanges bewteen models.If its not clear enough send me an e-mail at jhason2@yahoo.com and I will send you an un-compressed version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hwess Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Car show is at Macungie, PA Sat. & Sun. Aug. 4&5. On Friday, Aug. 3, the regional Dodge Brothers will be touring and Sat & Sun we will be at the show. Huge flea market and 1300 cars of all makes on Sat. On Sunday cars are displayed acording to marque. No judgeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I'm going to try and make it on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 PM Sent 1930 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 4, 2012 Share Posted August 4, 2012 Today I stripped more of the body to get it ready for a coat of epoxy primer. While I was waiting on the stripper to work I decided to try and get it running. When I turn the key on I have power to the plus side of the coil, and when the starter pedal is pushed I have power through the coil to the points but no power to the plugs . I pulled the cap off and the points are opening but no spark. Should I replace the coil and points or is the problem somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JACK M Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) clean or replace the points. Could be other problems but if the points are not sparking you wont get spark to the plugs. Not uncommon for points to loose continuity during long term storage. Edited August 5, 2012 by JACK M (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Thanks Jack, I'm going to replace the points and condenser tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Progress picsclick on the picture for the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 7, 2012 Share Posted August 7, 2012 I got the car running this afternoon. All it took was a coil. It seems to run fine but I'm going to send the carb and fuel pump out for rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Pappy, If you have the rotor and cap on, pull a plug and ground the base of plug. Have key ON, crank engine and check for spark at plug. If all connections are tight and clean, dry, and the points are at least gapped OK, there will be a spark at plug. If not, coil high tension winding is open in coil. Some details may come into play, like the positive arm of the points may be going to ground intermittently, battery hooked up backwards or a faulty high tension wire. Double check your cap-to rotor terminal. Some cars have a ballast resistor in series with the coil (+) and ignition switch. They can "open" circuit too. Check this out if your Dodge has one with a simple volt-ohm meter, set on low ohms scale. My '25 Dodge has no ballast resistor, I don't know if they used one in '38, but I expect they did. Some coils have this resistor built inside the coil itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Pappy, sorry for my "late reply". In my ignorance, I missed the last 3 posts (above mine). Glad you got her running,---Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Thanks for the reply, Pete. Better late than never !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 100 2448 - YouTube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Love them old flatheads! Eternal combustion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 (edited) I'm looking for a few partsWing window assy L & RFront seat tracksFloor pan, the area from the trunk to the back seatI know there's going to be more ......lol Edited August 10, 2012 by pappy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Man, that engine sounds really good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pappy Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 I haven't had much of a chance to work on the car lately, but I did manage to get the fuel pump rebuilt.BeforeAfter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorensen_DK Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Impressive - BTW: The Plymouth Doctor has repair panels. As I recall also the trunk floor.THEPLYMOUTHDOCTOR.COMCool you're saving another '38.Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete K. Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Excellent job restoring that fuel pump pappy! Looks like you've had a lot of experience doing this. Very good with a camera too. Best, Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.White Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 That's the way to do it Pappy! Would you care to give us a few tips on rebuilding the fuel pump? I for one need to know how to get to that standard of finish on the casting without sending it out to be done.Ray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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