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Two 1929 Peerlesses have been discovered: one in Long Island & one in Mississppi. The KPAIE list is now at 317 vehicles.

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brockway,

Thank you for posting these great photos of the 1929 6-81 Sedan and the 1928 6-60. I really like the headline "Legendaarinen Peerless" on the first advertisement and have to admit I like the Deep Blue body with Orange rims and Red wheels.

I think the 1928 may be a Close-Coupled Sedan or Close-Coupled Sport Sedan, with the semi-permanent trunk and the landau bars. Odometer reads 50,400 km, which is 30,000 miles.

There are 4 Peerlesses in Norway, Finland and Denmark, it seems.

----Jeff

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I read that the 1923 Peerless in the photo on post #3 of this thread sold for $55,000 at Hershey in 1993. It's one of the "Cadillac-Lookalike-Years" Peerlesses, so-called because of the radiator shells similarity to Cadillacs of the period...resulting from a large number of Cadillac Companys management personnel switching to Peerless in 1922.

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A seemingly "new" Peerless has appeared that I am not familiar with. It's on ebay for 6 more days.

A 1925 Mod. 8-67 Sedan. 1st year for the "Equipoised" "V-Type Eight" Peerless engine. FS in Stantonburg, NC. Minimum price is only $39,000.

Lot's of photos. Great condition.

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The 1925 mentioned above in post #81 was at 2013 Hershey in the Car Corral. I was at Hershey and never got to see it. Did anyone look at it or talk to the owner before it sold?

In some of the photos posted of the event (on the Meets & Tours sub-forum about the 2013 Hershey Meet) someone did have 3 pictures of the motorcar [on Lincolnman65 photo set - Day: Wednesday - 4 pages from end - right after '37 Cord Coupe photo]. Hey Bryan, I thought that one had your name all over it! I met the gentleman who bought it. He seemed really happy with the purchase when he appeared at the Peerless Motor Car Club Booth on Friday during the deluge. It is on its way to Poland as we speak.

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I saw a picture of a totally unknown [to me] Peerless on October 10th. Ralph found a 1929 Peerless Model Eight-125 Coupe somewhere. It needs restoration and is his.

I was so shocked to hear that one of these 114 HP, Straight-Eight, $2,195-new, Full Classic Peerless Luxury Cars in coupe form has survived I forget to ask where he found it! Though they built almost 1,200 of these top-of-the-line Peerlesses that year, almost no one has seen one of the impressive cars, as only 5 or 10 survive (that I know of) and just two of those are ever driven. First year for the 322 Cu. In. straight eight in a Peerless.

"Wow, Wow, Wow, Wow, Wow!"

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Previously Unknown Peerless

There's a recent book featuring photos of abandoned cars scattered here and there across the country, which has one of a Peerless I hadn't seen before. Despite the condition, I will add it to KPAIE*. The car is kind of unrestorable-looking. In other words.....it would rank on the bottom tier of these lists:

Value Guides...........The Modern Lexicon..............Restoration Shop Estimate

condition #1..........."Showroom new"..................."Take us a week to detail."

.............#2..........."A real trophy-winner"............"Take us a month."

.............#3..........."Might need fixing-up"............"Motor & interior rebuild, give us 6 months."

.............#4..........."Well at least it runs"............."12 months/$60,000 for labor."

.............#5..........."Worn-out"..........................."2 years."

.............#6..........."Worn-out & Abandoned"........."4 years, if you really want it restored, Mr. Rockefeller."

Re: the first column, one value guide I read stated that anything below Condition #4 was "junk", probably referring to loan value. The second column is a nice way of saying what non-car-guys would call it. The things in the third column are just wild guesses what someone in a shop might say if asked to work on cars delivered in various conditions. What's left of this car looks like it might be a 1929 Model 6-61 Sedan. Location: somewhere in the hinterlands of Idaho.

* My list of known Peerless automobiles has now reached 349. That's a lot considering that the State of California says 35....but still less than the survivors of just one model of Duesenberg.

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Another [thought to be] Previously Unknown Peerless

More details to follow, but just heard about a car on the phone. For Sale in Gardenville, Nevada/600 miles on frame-off restoration.

UPDATE:

Color: green

Price:$30,000 OBO

Owners: Ev & Gus Young

Phone: #(775) 782-5235

Model: 1927 Six-90 Sedan

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2nd UPDATE

After careful use of the the Known Peerless Automobiles In Existence spreadsheet I have determined that this isn't an unknown Peerless, but a car already listed with:

1) a new location(NV not CA)

2) slightly different owner name(but same last name)

3) new phone number

This does allow me to quote an ad I saved describing the car in 2008:

"Very rare 1927 Peerless Model 6-90 5-P Sedan. The 6-90 was only produced in 1927 and 1928. Frame off restoration. Engine rebuilt. All new mohair upholstery. All nickel parts re-plated. Only 691 miles since restoration. Car has 4-wheel Lockheed-Wagner hydraulic brakes. Includes copies of original manual and 'The Peerless Story'."

Very light green in color, wood wheels, wood steering wheel, rear spare, motometer. As all you old Peerless hands should know, this makes it a luxury six or Superb Six with the 289 Cu. In. aluminum engine (engineered by Cadillac, built by Peerless from 1924 to 1929). No, I haven't seen the car in person, but it appeared to be a real gem of a car in the color photos I saw 5 years ago. It would look a bit like Philippe Mordant's 1927 6-72 5-P Sedan. His has a Raulang Body and I wouldn't be surprised if this one does, too.

As it is a 6-90, it has the 120" w.b. almost every one was equipped with. The 6-72 and 6-90 were really identical cars, but going from the 126"/133" chassis to 120" made it possible for Peerless to offer this high-end car for about $500 less: $1,895 vs. $2,395-2,595. You could go quite a bit up in price from there......but the 6-90*, 6-72**, and 8-69*** models were all rated at the same horsepower......despite prices ranging from $1,695 all the way up to $3,795.

* 6-90...........$1695-1995........289 Peerless Six

** 6-72.........$2195-2995........289 Peerless Six

*** 8-69.......$2795-3795........332 Peerless Vee-Type Eight

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More info on car in Post #84 of this thread.

Photo can be found on pg 155 of Roadside Relics. Go to "Google Books", enter "Peerless Relics". Click on a book listed FS for $9.99 called ROADSIDE RELICS: America's Abandoned Automobiles, 2010 by Will Shiers. One picture and two paragraphs about car, including: "This four-door sedan, which probably dates to around 1930, was found in an Idaho yard. It's clearly not in good shape and stands very little chance of being restored."

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Two new Peerlesses for the KPAIE list bring its tally of known cars to 342: a 1903 two-cylinder in New Hampshire and a 1927 Model 6-80 Sedan in San Clemente.

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An important Peerless just got discovered. Someone found a 1930 Model "A" 5-P Sedan owned by the Blackhawk Collection on the 4th floor of a parking garage. The new owner replaced some tubes, bought a new battery, took the tank off to clean, and got it to run 3 days ago. Owner Ed Fallon listed it for sale on Craigslist (Phoenix, AZ) today for $17,500. Ed's Phone#: (602) 421-5663. Email: hllywooded@aol.com .

This was originally a Deep Blue. Someone brush-painted it Black. Model also called a "Standard Eight" -- has a straight eight 246.7 cu. in. Continental, 85 HP, interior looks original. Ed states this is a very complete car(I notice original oil filter and air cleaner still on engine, which is unusual).

This is the same year/model/engine/body style as the car listed here on the Peerless Forum a few days ago {"1930 Peerless Sedan" thread, with great photos of a red 1930 Peerless FS for $32,000 CDN by Jim Dunkley of British Columbia, Canada}, but this one is unrestored. * * * See Photos Below of Arizona Car * * *

............................as of 5/25/14 on: www.prewarcar.com ...................................................................... * * *Quite a Good Presentation Via Camera* * * ...........................................

Jeff

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post-49853-143142494326_thumb.jpg Peerless Standard Eight in Arizona.

post-49853-143142494344_thumb.jpg Interior of Model "A" Peerless. Photos by Ed Fallon.

** Also on prewarcar.com 5/19/14. **

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In the Hemmings Motor News I got last week, a red 1923 Peerless Raceabout was listed for sale with 3 color pictures. I had never heard about the car before. It was put together over the years by Ivan Jones of Littleton, CO and included a Peerless logo speedster gas tank, which I had never heard of. Called to find out more about this Peerless and found out that by Saturday, it was already sold to someone in Rhode Island.

This car has the usual Peerless V-8, dual exhausts, four-barrel carb. Didn't Buick and Packard have cars with that? They did, but Peerless was 35 years ahead of them!!

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The '23 Peerless Speedster just sold to Tom Laferriere of Rhode Island. He's an antique car dealer, but has purchased it for his own use. "Just had to have it!", he said.

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There's an article in the October 5th, 2014 Old Cars Weekly about the 1930 Peerless Model "A" Sedan on Posts #88 and #89 here. It appears to have been transported from AZ to an Iola, WI car show by the owner, who spends time in both AZ & MN. The story is by John Gunnell, titled "Shady Character", with two photos.

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The '23 Peerless Speedster just sold to Tom Laferriere of Rhode Island. He's an antique car dealer, but has purchased it for his own use. "Just had to have it!", he said.
And here it is.

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Hi Tom,

I'm glad you noticed the post about you. Welcome back to the Peerless Fold! I had no idea that you were the buyer until a few days ago. Please fill us in when you start getting into "Raceabout Weather" next spring about your experiences driving it. It has a really unusual speedster tank...almost like a racing item...and some interesting carpentry framing in bucket seats, fuel tank and toolbox.

There's a widely-available 1924 factory photo of a 4-Pass. Mod. 66 Phaeton showing a young lady in a cloche hat and wool vest riding in the front seat of her Peerless that clearly sports the same nickeled headlamps and rad shell as your car. You auta get a copy on ebay. If not, I'll mail you one.

Not fair. Your Peerless has four more horsepower than mine! Of course, I haven't got mine running yet. I did refinish the steering wheel this week, though. I think the "Vee-Type Eight's" rating was a little under-reported, though. Some years Peerless called it a 70 HP motor, other years, an 80 HP motor.

----Jeff

P.S.: What are you going to do when you have to start posting State Park Permits and parking passes on your windshield?

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Tom is not really an antique and classic car dealer, he is a rabid collector who finances his many great adventures by buying and selling antique and classic cars... :D

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Tom is not really an antique and classic car dealer, he is a rabid collector who finances his many great adventures by buying and selling antique and classic cars... :D

This car looks very similar to the speedster that Mr. Hofsted built a few years ago in N.Y. It was green and listed as a 1922 model 66 #66A115.

I wonder what happened to that car? When the bodies are too far gone to restore making the chassis into a speedster is the way to go. I have a 1919 complete chassis with fenders but missing body. I bought it as a parts car for my other '16 & '17 Peerless but it is in such good shape I'm thinking of making a speedster out of it. I could still use parts if needed. RHL

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The Green Dragon,

Ralph Cartonio told me he was the one who bought the green speedster. There's also a 1919 Peerless chassis out in Oregon that John DeShay sold about 2008, unless your're the one who bought it. Only bodywork left was radiator/hood/cowl(+ splash aprons and front fenders). ----Jeff

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You should put it on General Discussion Forum with the heading: "Photo Without Caption".

I saw this picture FS on eBay 10 days ago and thought it was a great shot. 1923 or 24 Model 66 4-Passenger Touring Phaeton. There are still 3 of these around.{NV, WI, Europe}

Over 90 years ago and a V-8, dual exhaust, 4-barrel carburetor, $3,000 price tag: you'd be puttin' on the Ritz. As my Grandma would have said: "Pretty squanky car!"

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A green 1929 Peerless Model Six-61 Sedan appeared at the 10/18/14 Dragone Auction. I had never heard of the car before. It was owned by Mason Thrall of Connecticut, whose collection also included Auburn, DeVaux, Franklin, Hupmobile, Mercer, Packard, and Rolls-Royce vehicles. New owner: we'd love to hear from you!

This model, the Peerless Six-61, is interesting, because it was celebrated as the one Peerless took a huge number of orders for in one day at the New York Auto Show. According to Automobile Trade Journal and Motor Age, February, 1929, while the Peerless Dealers Dinner was going on at the show, $8,000,000 of orders for this model came in.

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