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"New" Peerless Discovered!

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Dear Peerless fans,

In my continuing quest to find all of the surviving Peerlesses, I have discovered another one today. There is a restored 1917 Peerless Touring in Sweden. A V-8 of course!

----Jeff

NOTE: Oddly enough, there's a picture of the car on wikipedia's page about Peerless!

Color Photo found on: www.swedishbrasscar.com ( Go to Contents, then scroll down to Cars A-Z until you reach Peerless )

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Philippe Mordant wrote me that a 1923 Peerless Model 66 Touring was for sale in Barcelona, Spain this summer. Blue, with Black fenders and top. Looks to be in very good condition. I believe the source of the ad was "anciennes.net" in July, 2009. This V-8 Phaetons price was 73,000 euros.

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There is a Peerless that worked the road up Mt Washington, in NH. It is in the museum of the company that owns the road. Is that on your list?

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Dan,

Thanks for writing. I'm not familiar with this vehicle. First, the basic question of what type of vehicle: is this a car, 1905-1919 truck, or a Peerless steam tractor ( not built by the Peerless Motor Car Co )? Second, have you seen it or read of it?

I have a photo somewhere of a Peerless Touring Car meeting a Peerless Tractor on the road in 1907.

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Such is the age of getting old. I read an article that referenced a Peerless, however, the one in the museum is a Pierce Arrow.

dan

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That was the 1905 Glidden tour from N.Y. city to Hartford, Boston, Portsmouth, Mt. Washington and back to N.Y. The picture of the steam tractor blocking the road was in the Jan. Feb. issue of Antique Automobile 1976. I don't believe there is a Peerless car in that picture. They had the "Climb to the Clouds" on this tour that went up Mount Washington and it was quite treacherous. There was a storm and several tourist were injured by lightening. Peerless was on this tour and finished with a perfect score however Percy Pierce in a Pierce Great Arrow won the 1905 Glidden Tour.

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December 12th, 2009.

There are currently some people carrying on a discussion about a heretofore-undiscovered 1925 Peerless on the AACA General Discussion Forum. I believe the car is a Model 6-72 Sedan, is in New Jersey, and is for sale at $10,500. There are even photos!

The original post is from "broker-bob", who has seen the car and is interested in buying it.

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A new Peerless has appeared on ebay recently. In November, there was a pretty nice-looking 1929 Peerless with red wire wheels and dual sidemounts for sale in the Oneida, New York area. It did not sell and is still for sale. It needs a full restoration, but the owner said he got the motor running a couple of years ago and the car is 95% complete.

Neither I nor the owner are sure of the model or body style...but the car has a six and has the kind of 4-passenger body style that is sometimes referred to as a Victoria, 4-Passenger Coupe, Doctor's Coupe, or Opera Coupe. There is a fitted case in the rear seating area that may be for a top hat. Minimum price, I believe, is $6,500.

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I saw a Peerless "boattail" coupe for sale a few years ago in Charleston, WV. 6 cylinder, I forget the model (6-70)? I am not sure if he ever sold it...needed a flywheel if I remember correctly. Otherwise looked like it was in pretty good shape!

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That car was for sale on the AACA Forums and sold 2 years ago. It was a 1927 Model 6-60 "Roadster Coupe" and is now owned by a Peerless Club member in Quebec.

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I found a "new" Peerless today(May 20th). It was a rather unusual one, for sale at a ranch auction May 15th, 2010 in Mariposa, California. The text said it was a 1927 Peerless "open cab truck with good spoke wheels". Looking at the photo -- it looked like a Model 6-60 or 6-80 car converted into a pickup, with a wooden bed. Unrestored, but not a complete basket case. The hood, windshield, splash aprons, front fenders, tires & wooden wheels were all there, but the "open cab" part just meant it was missing the entire roof and the doors. Sold for $2,750.

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FOUND ANOTHER PEERLESS

This one is a 1926 Touring in TASMANIA. I found it in a websearch on May 22nd in a photo called "1993 world rally Tasmania" by vccatas. You can see the picture by going to: www.vccatas.org.au and looking under the event quoted above, or going to Google image search and typing-in "1926 Peerless Tasmania".

The car is shown in a head-on view and looks really well-restored. It could be either a 5- or 7-passenger Touring Phaeton, and a Model 6-80, 6-72, or 8-69; I really can't tell. The photo is #29 of 63 taken at a Veteran Car Club of Australia (Tas) show, and the Peerless appears to be dark green with black fenders. The view shows the distinctive 1925-28 Peerless radiator shell and nickel-plated drum headlights well, and the car looks like it has disc wheels.

This car brings the number of car and trucks on the Known Peerless Automobiles In Existence list to 300.

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A new car's shown up in the Czech Republic. Someone named Ivana wrote in to the General Discussion Forum a week ago asking for help in identifying the year and model of a friend's Peerless Coupe. It's a late Twenties car without much documentation...and no photos yet. Title of thread is "Please help identify".

The owner of the Peerless found the car in Slovakia. He doesn't write in English, so needs to go through an interpreter. The auto could be a Coupe, Opera Coupe, or Victoria...a 6-61, 6-81, or even a 6-91. The serial number presented makes it sound like an extemely early-production 6-61.

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... and do you know this one? a 1917 Model 56 Cloverleaf Roadster sold by Driver Source in Houston, TX between the beginning of July and now for the price of US$56.500. I have all the record of 31 pictures and can get them all here if interested. But I will annex o few of them for your appetite.

I am living at about 30 miles from Philippe Mordant, a lover of Peerless as he already has a few of these cars.

1917 Peerless Model 56 Two-Power-Range Cloverleaf Roadster

Chassis No: 172135

Body No: 4355 8-7-17

Engine No: 2230786

The Model 56 Roadster is a gorgeous rare example of world class construction and luxury. This roadster was completely and carefully restored rotisserie style, frame off to exacting factory standards in 2003. The car was brought back to its original factory green paint and black leather interior. All of the roadster’s original features and instrumentation have stayed with the vehicle and have been restored as well. Includes dual spare 34x4Goodrich Silvertown Cords to mount on the roadster’s 12-spoke wooden wheels.

Equipped with original:

• Electric horn

• Royce Motometer

• V8 Engine and 3 Speed Transmission

• Driving Lamps

• Night light

• Gauges

• Tool Kit

• Accessories

Own this rare and unique vehicle for only $56,500!!

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I have seen it was already spoken about this car and about pictures of it in an ad of an auction company. the problem is you are giving the website place but not the pictures and when you are giving that in April per example you are not sure to find them in August or next year. The best manner to see picutres of a car is to add them to a post, I think.

It is my point of view and I think it is the best!

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Guest BJM

We appreciate you adding the photos. Some of us can not always do so.

The Cloverleaf design is a "newer" concept to me. My friend Jeff Brown would say "I found a Cloverleaf roadster" and I would try to picture it but then thought what an ugly style that must be to have "4" cloverleaf sections to a body.

But your photos help - esocially that one slightly overhead shot showing the seperation of the front seats. Basically, bucket seats with pass through access to the rear seat.

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llopdoro,

Thank you for writing about the 1917 Model 56 Peerless and welcome to the Peerless Forum. When this green car came up for auction three years ago, Bryan and I had a discussion about it here ( please see "Peerless Photos" thread ). Many thanks for sending the photos....for some reason, it takes me a long time to attach them to my messages, so I rarely do it.

It's great to have two people from Belgium using the Peerless Forum now! Philippe sent me something you wrote earlier this year which I tried to translate. Apparently, you are a member of the American Car Club of France, the group for people in your area who collect American cars. Have you seen the recent posts on the "Peerless Research Findings" thread ( No. 128 and No. 129 )? There are two quotes from a 1930 French magazine about Peerless. Maybe you can translate them for us. I think one says: "To own a Peerless is equivalent to a letter of nobility" --- but my French is not very good.

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My name is Philippe Hulet de Limal. It will be easier and not anonymous like Llopdoro: llopdoro is a mixage between Catalan Spanish and Castillan Spanish, llop is Catalan is "wolf" in English, d is Catalan too when oro in Castillan for "gold" in English. This golden wolf is the crest of my arms.

An other Peerless, a 1926 PEERLESS GREEN DRAGON II RACER COMPLETLEY RESTORED, is on ebay today until September 6 - Other Makes: eBay Motors (item 110580013600 end time Sep-06-10 09:33:10 PDT)

I will prepare a record with the pictures and the text so that who will be coming here after the delay of auction will see all the information, what is never possible in the majority of the cases as nobody is thinking to the others who need information.

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The guy who was restoring it was adding something which is logically not included in a racer = a luggage box!!! what we see is not on its place on this car.

Here is the text of the offer:

"1926 Green Dragon II, A rare opportunity to own the famous John Hollansworth’s Green Dragon II. A racer with a rare model 69 engine. Has just completed a body off restoration, a total engine rebuild including new oil pump 12 volt alternator, ignition system, heavy duty water pump, new clutch, radiator, cooling fans, electric over drive, brakes, and shocks. Nothing has been over looked in the preparation of a race ready automobile. This was built to champagne in road rally and racing. Less than 100 miles since total rebuild and paint. This car is a total joy to drive and handles beautifully on the road. Over $100,000 dollars invested in the restoration."

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Dear Llopdoro,

Thank you for posting the information and photos of the '26 Peerless Speedster. The photography is very good. It was interesting to read about the origins of your family name. Don't some Basques speak French Catalan, or do they simply speak Basque? I'm glad that more Europeans like yourself are appreciating prewar American autos. How many people are in the ACCF...and what are the most popular U.S. cars for them to collect and drive?

About a year ago, a 1923 or 1924 Peerless Model 66 Touring was for sale by someone in Spain. Did you ever hear where it went? It was Blue with a Black top and a Peerless V-8.

Thank you. ----Jeff

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