dibarlaw

Simple answer is, NO. Standard engine is a 207 Cu.in. the Master is a 274 cu. in. for the years 1926 thru 1927. 1927 introduced new motor mounts with a balanced crankshaft and a torsional balancer.

I have several photos from Eric Barrett during the restortion of his father's car. Unfortunately I have not been able to orient them. I have them saved in the correct orientation but when inserted here it flips them 90 degrees. Erick is also in California.

Walt: Thank you for this rememberance for your friend. During one of my infrequent trips to Hershey in the late 1980s leading a troop of Boy Scouts to expose them to the hobby, someone pointed out Mr. Clark to us. As much as I wanted to meet him he was engaged in conversation. As a kid in the 1960s the Long Island Automotive Museum was always going to be my goal for a visit once I was able to drive. Alas it was never to be. Since these discussions came about I had to pull out and review my Antique Cars portfolio with the flyleaf page announcing the closing of the Carnival of Cars at Times Square on March 1st 1955. This publication was a LIA Museum promotional item. This showed photos of many of cars at the museum and how Austin got ino collecting and how the hobby began. He noted his mentors by a few photos of those pioneer collectors.

The car is quite a lovely site with the wire wheels in these photos. Hugh has been contracted to do an interior and top for this incomplete restoration. We have speculated that it started its life as a model 47 sedan. There was no model 45 touring produced domestically in 1927. Only the model 55 on the 128" WB chassis. The color is a Champagne metalic. I have been in touch to verify dimensions on my 1925-45 since that was what the body first appeared to be. Aluminum cowl band,(painted over in the photo) 2 piece split windshield. Then things got interesting.... as it has a Standard dash board and the cowl dimensions match my 1925 standard. But the windshield stancheons top pins are 44" apart which is correct for a Master. The Standard spacing is 42". Also has the tapped bosses on the stancheons for wind wings as found on Sport Touring and Roadster. I told Hugh that he has his work cut out for him. There will be a lot of work to make this look at least period correct.

Gary: I saw that one and was thinking hard untill I saw it was in Nevada. If it could have been gotten for just over that price I would make the treck. I was also thinking about your model 31. But if I can't get things finished on my 1925 Master to get him back on the road then I have no business lusting for an earlier car. Below is the 1910 Model 10 that our Mason/Dixon Chapter sponsored at the AACA museum. Paying for insurance and upkeep. It was sold at the Carlisle auction several years ago. We were quite put out to find out after the fact that the Museum had decided to liquidate the car. I would have wanted to bid. I believe it brought $36,000. At our AACA museum show 2019.

Scene from an episode of "The Fugitive".

Had our Cruise-in at our church last Friday. We had about 80 vehicles. Lovely 80 degree evening with nice breeze. Recycled photo from the previous year. Out of the 80 attendees there were probably less than 6 of what I would call original style cars. Mostly all hot rods & period muscle and even those were heavily modified. I was able to get about 4 familys with kids to sit and play in the car. The horn got quite a workout.

Mark: Yes, good idea to check to make sure it clears the door. When we worked on Mr. Whiteford's 1922-45 in Baltimore he had 2 broom handles with holes drilled to lock over the pivot and the crutch tip rubber on the rear fender to drop the top down enough to get the car through his only 6'4" high garage door. John Feser and Mr. Whiteford when we worked on the car back in 2012. What it looked like inside with the top dropped down.

So sad but true.... In our town of Chambersburg our history is always promoted as being the only town destroyed by the Confederacy. Most of the city scape was rebuilt anew by the mid 1870s. The consistancy of the town architecture was a marvel. Then progress... since we are the Frankin County seat we have ALL social services for the region now located next or near to the courthouse that escaped the Civil war fire. In the last 10 years more and more downtown multistory buildings have been raised to be replaced by modern city/county government buildings and parking lots. Add this to our hospital that has multiple satilite buildings, our school district and a local Church chewing up all the in town properties. Most comming off the tax roles or obtaining non-profit status. I was starting to document the old mainstreet car dealerships that existed before the first world war and up through the 1950s. All except one on route 11 have been torn down. The 1935 Gayman Chevrolet and later Jennings Chevrolet, Buick, GMC buildings. That property was just recently encapsulated by a county office complex and a party venu. One structure torn down 2 years ago was a Franklin dealership as far back as 1907. Then Studebaker, Cadillac and White commercial cars into the 1920s. I always shake my head at historical markers that indicate where something once was......

Mark: When you were here I believe I showed you how the steel plate was used to do the visor/seal on my cars. Photos of Leif's car with the original top. What I have on my car now is pretty much how you are doing yours with a flap in the front.

Again to clarify that this is a 1928 Model 20, 2 door coach, not a coupe. The data plate on the firewall in this photo will show a stamp of 28-20.

I know we made comment on the orientation of ther bearing in your other post. But as long as it is in that position I would leave it. Otherwise the entire pump will need to be removed just to switch the bearing orientation. NO FUN! Also the engine would need to be re-timed. I have a question.... What is the piece to the right of the bearing with the 2 knurled tracks? The water pump should have a brass hex packing nut on that side of the pump. It does not appear that the rear pump bearing could move forward enough be able to slide the starter genertor coupling forward. Essential for the pump to be removed without removing the starter generator. This is how far the bearing and coupler should be able to be moved. Unless on your car someone cut the pump shaft and has the knurled piece as a coupling collar.

Dave: I used to live about 18 miles from the location. I was there about 40 years ago. We had the bi-annual Cumberland Valley Steam and Gas Show here outside of Chambersburg this weekend also. On your way home if you swing by Chambersburg we could visit. We are 1 mile west of Route 81 and 3 blocks north of Route 30. (Lincoln Highway) Safe travels.

The traditional Buick script was used from 1913-1935. Then this logo was used for dealer identification from 1936 to the 1950s.

This is the 1912 Model 36 at the AACA museum that you show the gas tank mounted logo. I wonder if they are still identifing it as a 1910. I documented the specs for them back in 2019.

David: This is how they did a 1924-45 that had an accessory double spare carrier. Except they used the cowl light housings with adapted modern plastic lens'. Below was another variation on a 1924-45 done as a "tribute" model 55 in Sagebrush green. This time using the original center tail light and adding 2 more large series cowl lights for added brake and turn siginal. I think that is what I will do with my 1925 Master. What was on my car when I brought it home. After almost 7 years of owning the car I finally came up with a pair of large series cowl lights. I just have to find red lenses to adapt.

Yes, it is a 1928 Model 54C Country Club Coupe. Great design and colors for the time. Looks to have been fixed up at some time in the dim past. The landau bars are not placed correctly. So the top material may have been replaced. Even on the restored example below the bars are on the wrong side. The water return tube has been recreated by plumbing components. Originally steel. I like it! But from my experience with my 1925 Master Touring it will be double the price to get it to be in reliable driver condtion. My car had been "RESTORED"?? in the 1960s-1980. Easy to make a driver since it had already been "Restored" once. Not so..... Typical discriptor of dad taking everything apart and repainting..... except ignoring worn out components. Even then I have found a lot of areas where dirt and grease were painted over. After 6 years I am still not done.... I have to concentrate!

What condition is the car in question? What Model Buick is it? We do have knowledgeable Buick people in North and South Carolina. Current photos will help. These are 2 1914 Buicks I had offered on. 1914 B-37 Touring. When we first looked at the car in 2010 I had an estimate of over $10,000 to redo the upholstery. 1914 B24 Roadster. Prossibly first "restored" in the 1950s. Note the burgandy chassis as well as stripped and varnished wheels. Old photo before it was dissasembled for "RE-Restoration" and the process abandoned for 20+years.

Mark: Since you are going with a Burbank like cloth color, the plated ends would not make much contrast. Leif's 1925-25 car with original Burbank cloth detailing. A green binding to be close to the dark green body color and matching snaps. The rear hidem ends are black and the front ones are nickle plated. I believe that was a later addition by him.

Chris: I have a business card with this car. I received it in 2014. At the time the car was owned by Cliff & Betty Hay. 337 Barnerville Rd. Cobleskill, NY. 12043

The owner did dispose of all the engine and components to a nother local person who seems to be willing to part things out. Not all scrapped yet! PM me for the contact persons phone number.

Dave: Was this the car the transmission top went into you got from me?

1926 or 1927 Master, depending on diameter of Bezel

What a nearly all original 1927-24 looks like. Top, Paint, plating and upholstery are original. The dark blue/gray belt stripe and some of the red pin stripe has been worn off through 95 years of polishing. I do like the Patrol Green and Cream combo. My friends original 1927-54 Master Sport Roadster... Top, Paint, Plating, upholstery original. Standards came with Black tops and Master had Burbank cloth. Striping detail. Photo before He swapped out to Buffalo wire wheels. The bead stripe appeard to be more of a dark blue/gray towards black.

Hugh: I have offered some items and John said he will get back to me. Again the 1924-45 was a Black only car. I bid on this 1924-45 at auction in 2010. This shows the correct top patern. Wheel striping is correct. Alan Wohl and I have early 1925-45s that were also Black. When Buick started using DUCO in mid year 1925 that color was changed to Cobalt Blue. Alan's 1925-45 has all the original body paint and original striping, top and upholstery.