jay 1966 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I am a new member. I recently purchased a 1963 lesabre 2dr HT with factory 4 speed. Does anyone know production info for this combination? Thanks Jay 860-250-9281 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest sintid58 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I don't know how rare but assume that its very rare. I've never seen one talked about on here, way cool car by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted "Wildcat65" Nagel Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Very cool! I've seen the ##s for 63 Wildcat 4-speeds but not LeSabre. Thanks for joining us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean1997 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I don't know how accurate it is, but Ward's Automotive Yearbook says 0.2% of 1963 fullsize Buicks came with a 4-speed (99% with autos, 0.8% with 3-speeds). There were 309,068 fullsize Buicks built during the 1963 model year, which means about 618 cars (all LeSabre or Wildcat) would have been built with 4-speeds.[TABLE=class: grid, width: 721]<tbody>[TR][TD]Year[/TD][TD]Model/ Style[/TD][TD]BodyPlatform[/TD][TD]Series[/TD][TD]Description[/TD][TD]Region[/TD][TD]Production[/TD][TD]Wheelbase(inches)[/TD][TD]EngineCylinders[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4019[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Special[/TD][TD]4-door thin pillar sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]21,733[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V6/V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4027[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Special[/TD][TD]2-door thin pillar notchback coupe[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]21,886[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V6/V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4035[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Special[/TD][TD]4-door station wagon, 2-seat[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]5,867[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V6/V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4045[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Special[/TD][TD]4-door station wagon, 3-seat[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]2,415[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V6/V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4067[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Special[/TD][TD]2-door convertible[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]8,082[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V6/V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4110[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Special Deluxe[/TD][TD]stripped chassis[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]768[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4119[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Special Deluxe[/TD][TD]4-door thin pillar sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]37,695[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4135[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Special Deluxe[/TD][TD]4-door station wagon, 2-seat[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]8,771[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4347[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Skylark[/TD][TD]2-door hardtop coupe[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]32,109[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4367[/TD][TD]Y[/TD][TD]Skylark[/TD][TD]2-door convertible[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]10,212[/TD][TD]112.1[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4411[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]LeSabre[/TD][TD]4-door sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]8,328[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4435[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]LeSabre[/TD][TD]4-door estate wagon, 2-seat[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]5,566[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4439[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]LeSabre[/TD][TD]4-door hardtop sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]50,420[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4445[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]LeSabre[/TD][TD]4-door estate wagon, 3-seat[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]3,922[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4447[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]LeSabre[/TD][TD]2-door hardtop coupe[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]27,977[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4467[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]LeSabre[/TD][TD]2-door convertible[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]9,975[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4469[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]LeSabre[/TD][TD]4-door thin pillar sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]64,995[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4635[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]Invicta[/TD][TD]4-door estate wagon, 2-seat[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]3,495[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4639[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]Wildcat[/TD][TD]4-door hardtop sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]17,519[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4647[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]Wildcat[/TD][TD]2-door hardtop coupe[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]12,185[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4667[/TD][TD]B[/TD][TD]Wildcat[/TD][TD]2-door convertible[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]6,021[/TD][TD]123[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4747[/TD][TD]E[/TD][TD]Riviera[/TD][TD]2-door hardtop sport coupe[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]40,000[/TD][TD]117[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4819[/TD][TD]C[/TD][TD]Electra 225[/TD][TD]4-door thin pillar sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]14,268[/TD][TD]126[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4829[/TD][TD]C[/TD][TD]Electra 225[/TD][TD]4-door pillarless sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]11,468[/TD][TD]126[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4839[/TD][TD]C[/TD][TD]Electra 225[/TD][TD]4-door hardtop sedan[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]19,714[/TD][TD]126[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4847[/TD][TD]C[/TD][TD]Electra 225[/TD][TD]2-door hardtop coupe[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]6,848[/TD][TD]126[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR][TR][TD]1963[/TD][TD]4867[/TD][TD]C[/TD][TD]Electra 225[/TD][TD]2-door convertible[/TD][TD]U.S.[/TD][TD]6,367[/TD][TD]126[/TD][TD]V8[/TD][/TR]</tbody>[/TABLE]1964 Wards Automotive Yearbook-low res.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Very cool car! Matt Menges in Wichita, who sometimes posts here, also has a '63 LeSabre 4-speed car: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I saw a black one about 15 years ago, unrestored and fairly rough, being auctioned at an old paint & body shop that was going out of business in Oklahoma City. I was too late arriving and it had already been sold. It was a LeSabre two-door hardtop. There was a blue 4-speed LeSabre station wagon at the Chicago BCA national meet in the 1990s--those are the only LeSabre four-speeds I have ever seen.Pete Phillips, BCA #73381963 Wildcat conv. 4-speed (about 2/3rds of the way through its restoration)Leonard, Tx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay 1966 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thank you all for taking the time to respond to my question.Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Sweet. Love that Buick!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscheib Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Jay, Welcome to the forum and Buick Ownership. I see by your phone number, that we are in the same area code of CT. i hope you are considering joining the BCA and also the local Yankee Chapter. We will be meeting next on February 13th in Cromwell. As you were kind enough to provide a phone number, I will give you a call this week.John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Wow, thanks for sharing the discovery and purchase. Thanks also for the pictures, I have heard them talked about but never seen even a picture of a a 63 4 speed in the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEarl Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Dropping back in to say welcome aboard and to ask that you please share more about this car in our Me and My Buick forum > Me and My Buick Also please stop by and introduce yourself here > http://forums.aaca.org/f115/please-introduce-yourself-290500.html I am sure there is going to be a lot of interest in your new find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay 1966 Posted March 7, 2013 Author Share Posted March 7, 2013 The information found so far indicates there were 76 two-door hardtop lesabre four-speed cars built 63. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 76 seems about right, given the total production. But, more importantly there can't be more then 10-15 left in any condition. In the late 60's they would not have been seen in the light we see them now, plus the bodies rust out, etc. I'd 10, with maybe 4-5 in nice condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay 1966 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Have some new pictures of the Buick want to know what You think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 That is a really nice car, but I'm not a fan of those wheels/ tires or the numerous stickers on the rear windows. But it is your car, your way. If you like it does it really matter what others think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Have some new pictures of the Buick want to know what You think.Drool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhambulldog Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 VERY NiCE!!!I love the color!!Best Color for a Buick !!!Sent from my BlackBerry 9370 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Phillips Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 June issue of the Buick Bugle will be on the 1963 full-sized cars like this. Am finishing it up right now.I think there's an error in the production chart above. Model 4411 is a LeSabre 2-dr. sedan, not a 4-dr. sedan. I used to own one.Pete Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest loadmaster Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 I haven't been active in the Buick circles for some time but do remember a fellow named larry ? from the south side of Chicago that had a '63 LeSabre 4 speed station wagon in baby blue. Neat car ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob McDonald Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 It's not scientific, but I've always had in mind that just 1% of most model's production makes it past their 50th birthday. If in fact there were just 76 of these built, by my calculation, yours should be one of 0.76 cars remaining! Obviously, I never passed a statistics course but it is a beautiful car, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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