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  1. Here are some 1952 model 52 tags. In addition to rivets being used to attach the tag, it appears that the tag in your picture has been modified to read: 1952 MOD. 52-59 STYLE No 59-4519 when it should say 1952 MOD. 52-52 STYLE No 52-4519 This was probably done because, as Al said, some one replaced the original 1951 model 59 trim tag with a 1952 model 52 trim tag.
  2. In 1952 trim 51 was Dark Grey Cloth and Light Grey Bolster and available only on model 52 (style 4519). Model 59 had different trim codes. You can find my trim code list here: https://forums.aaca.org/topic/231704-1932-1975-buick-trim-codes-by-model/ Some 1951 and 1952 model 59 Ionia tags attached for comparison.
  3. That model is listed on the parts catalog for 1927. I have some serial numbers for a couple 1927 model 49 cars. If you have any old McLaughlin Buick Club of Canada Accelerator magazines, here are the references: MBCC Accelerator, May 1974, Vol. 3, Issue 6, page 11 MBCC Accelerator, May/June 1985, Vol. 14, Issue 6, page 17
  4. ST 73 4EY87 FL1 281966 BDY TR 684 54 T PNT 05B AM6 Fisher body style number = 4EY87 4 = Buick E = E-body platform Y = Riviera 87 = 2-door hardtop coupe FL1 = body built at Flint MI 218966 = body number Trim 684 = Neutral Cloth with 60/40 Front Seat, available on style 4EY87 (sales code 364) Paint code 54 = Autumn Gold Metallic (sales code K) T = Sandalwood vinyl top (sales code 7) 05B = build date = May (05) 1973, second week (B) Option codes AM6 = 60/40 Front Seats
  5. If you post a picture of the trim tag I can decode it. There were two codes, the sales code on the Buick literature and the production code used by Fisher body on the trim tag. For example Harvest Gold paint was Buick sales code M and Fisher code 60. For trim, Saddle Cloth with 60/40 front seat in the Riviera was Buick sales code 366 and Fisher code 686. I think most online paint references use the Fisher codes and most interior places use the Buick sales codes.
  6. Paint code 575 = solid Ontario Maroon Trim code 107 = sorry don't have Canadian trim codes for 1935 This car was built in Canada by GM of Canada and is not an export car. The production number of 11 export cars you are referring to is for cars built in the US at Flint Michigan. GM of Canada production figures are not include in the production numbers for Flint. You can get more information from Vintage Vehicles Services if you want to pay for a report: https://www.vintagevehicleservices.com/
  7. 1948 MOD 56-C STYLE No 48-4567X BODY No L 9479 TRIM No 44 PAINT No 31 Fisher body style number 4567X 4 = Buick 5 = Series 50/Super 67 = 2-door convertible, 6-passenger, X = with hydraulic window lifts/seat/top BODY No L 9479 L = Linden, NJ 9479 = 9,479th style 4567 built at Linden Trim 44 = Tan Bedford Cord and Red Leather, available on model 56C only Paint code 31 = solid Carlsbad Black 34887377 = frame serial number 3 = Linden, NJ 4887377 = sequential number, range for 1948 was 4801266 to 5020983 47423505 = engine serial number of replacement engine 4742350 = sequential number, range for 1947 was 4,737,740 to 4,999,880 5 = Series 50/Super 50932805 = engine serial number of original engine 5093280 = sequential number, range for 1948 was 4999881 to 5220971 5 = Series 50/Super The original engine has been replaced and a previous owner failed to follow the correct procedure for changing the serial number on the title when the engine serial number is used as the legal ID number. This is very common when people don't know that the engine serial number can be used as the VIN. Also, the trim tag has been removed and reattached with the incorrect rivets and the frame serial number plate is attached with incorrect rivets when originally it would have been attached with a certain style of screw. Was the parts car used to rebuild this car a 1947? As for the series digit (last 5) in the engine serial number not lining up with the rest of the engine serial number, it is not uncommon to see such misalignment.
  8. Just for fun, a picture of a 1959 GM of Canada serial number plate showing the car serial number and engine serial number for a Buick model 4439, same plate used by all GM of Canada divisions.
  9. It's a Canadian built engine. GM of Canada used a different serial number system than the US. B9222332 B = 364 nailhead V8 from 4400 series (LeSabre) 9 = automatic transmission 222332 = sequential number, range for 1959 is 211004 to 222905
  10. Trim tag decode: BUICK MOTOR DIVISION GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION FLINT, MICH. 1955 MOD. 55-66C STYLE No 55-4667X BODY No G 1584 TRIM No 15 S PAINT No 1DD TOP ACC BODY BY FISHER Buick model 55-66C 55 = 1955 model year 66C = 2-door convertible, 6-passenger Fisher body style number 55-4667x 55 = 1955 model year 4 = Buick 6 = Series 60/Century 67 = 2-door convertible, 6-passenger X = with power windows/seat/top Body No G 1584 G = body built at Flint, MI 1584 = 1,584th 4667X built at Flint, MI TRIM No 15 S Trim 15 = Red Leather, available on Flint built model 66C only S = Power seat - 4-way (ACC code) PAINT No 1DD 1 = Black convertible top Paint code DD = solid Windsor Grey Metallic Top code stamped with paint code ACC. (accessory) option codes: S = stamped on trim line = Power seat - 4-way B = Heater and defroster Frame (Chassis No.) serial number decode (commonly used as the VIN): 6B1058325 (hard to read, should match plate in driver's door jamb) 6 = Series 60/Century B = 1955 model year 1 = final assembly at Flint MI 058325 = sequential number, range for Flint in 1955 was 001001 to 244927 Engine (Moteur No.) serial number decode (could also be used as VIN in the USA): Vxxxxxxx6 (hard to read, should match number stamped on driver side of engine) V = V8, used before engine number 1,000,000 reached in 1955 xxxxxx = sequential number, range for 1955 was 720,080 to 1,460,022 6 = Series 60/Century
  11. 1936 MOD. STYLE 36-4477B BODY No. 9046 TRIM 245 PAINT 432 Mod. 46 = Buick Special 2-door business coupe with deck, 2-passenger (hard to tell, but looks like 46 might be stamped there) Style 4477B = Fisher body style number 4 = Buick 4 = Series 40/Special 77B = 2-door business coupe with deck, 2-passenger BODY No. 9046 9046 = 9046th 4477B built Trim 245 = Brown Bedford Cord, available on models 41, 46, 46S, 46SR, 48 Paint code 432 = solid Phantom Grey Metallic
  12. Same place as the engine serial number (on a pad at the front of the right cylinder head) but the engine production code is stamped upside down in relation to the engine serial number.
  13. Job number 7710 is a 1928 model 58 2-door coupe.
  14. Try on passenger side on top of the cowl.
  15. The engine is not numbers matching because it is from 1962. 7J1087769 = car/engine serial number 7 = Series 4700/Riviera J = 1963 1 = built at Flint, MI 087769 = sequential number, range for 1963 Flint full-size cars was 001001 to 128398 4I1095138 = car/engine serial number of engine donor car 4 = Series 4400/LeSabre I = 1962 1 = built at Flint 095138 = sequential number, range for 1962 Flint full-size cars was 001001 to 101495 L2I 420766 = engine production code L = low compression regular gas option in U.S., automatic transmission only, Wildcat 375 2 = 401 V8 with 2 bbl carb I = 1962 420766 = sequential number 04C STYLE 63-4747 FB 29899 BODY TRIM 717 J2 FF * PAINT ACC. S8 I6 N2 U7 04C = bodyd build date = April (04) 1963, third week (C) 4747 = Fisher body style number 4 = Buick 7 = Series 4700/Riviera 47 = 2-door hardtop sport coupe FB = body built at Flint, MI 29899 = 29,899th style 4747 built at Flint Trim 717 = Blue Cloth and Vinyl with Bucket-Type Front Seats, available only on style 4747 Paint code FF = solid Marlin Blue Metallic * = unknown Accessory option codes: J2 = Power Seat - 4 Way Tilt Adjuster S8 = Protection Group and Remote Control Side View Mirror I6 = Soft-Ray Tinted Glass N2 = Air Conditioner U7 = Power Windows
  16. If the car is truly a 1949, then sounds like someone removed the 1949 frame serial number plate and data plate and replaced it with a 1946 frame serial number plate. There are lots of reasons a person might do this and the plates are easily removed. Buick always used a frame serial number plate (called a VIN in later years). Some years the was actually attached to the frame and other years it was attached to the cowl, firewall, or door jamb area. The style of the plate varied over the years. Also, an X after the Fisher body style number denotes some sort of hydraulic power accessory not an export car. For 1949 this would be hydraulic window lifts/seat/top. An X after the Buick model number would denote an export model (see the attached model chart from the 1928-1954 Buick Master Chassis Parts Book).
  17. 14517325 = frame serial number 1 = built at Flint, MI 4517325 = sequential number, range for 1946 was 4,364,445 to 4,524,130 Buick was known to use an I for a 1 and a b for a 6. Perhaps it is a 1946 but wasn't imported until 1949? It wasn't unusual for the importing country to use the year of import as the year of the car. If you find the body plate mentioned above it will have the model year listed on it. The plate will look like the one in the attached photo. As you can see from the photo, in 1946 the serial number plate was attached with screws, so it would be easy to swap with another.
  18. 1430882x = car serial number (the number you posted is short one digit) 1 = built at Flint, MI 430882x = sequential number, range for 1942 was 4,257,442 to 4,364,444 (this portion should be 7 digits long) 45101395 = engine serial number 4510139 = sequential number, range for 1942 was 4,457,941 to 4,556,599 5 = Series 5/Super (1942 was the first year for the series digit to be at the end of the engine number. Yes, I know, Buick pulled a fast one.) So looks like 1942 numbers to me. I've posted some pictures of the engine numbers from two 1942 Specials showing the series digit at the end of the engine number.
  19. 70746784 7074678 = sequential number, starting at 6950620 for 1953 (last year for straight šŸ˜Ž 4 = Series 40/Special (starting in 1942 Buick put the series digit at the end of the serial number)
  20. Yes, it's an engine serial number, which was used as the VIN by many states back in the day. Looks like a previous owner didn't know it was the engine serial number and stamped it on a tag. Not the first time I've seen someone do that because they were unaware it was the engine serial number. Also possible that they swapped engines and discovered that the old engine serial number was used as the VIN only after they made the swap and then made a tag to match the title. It would be good to check the engine serial number of the engine currently in the car. 43526823 4 = Series 40/Special 3526823 = sequential number, range for 1938 was 3,396,937 to 3,572,651
  21. 54229445 = engine serial number 5 = Series 50/Super 4229445 = sequential number, range for 1941 was 4,074,859 to 4,457,940 Fisher body style number = 4519 4 = Buick 5 = Series 50/Super 19 = 4-door touring sedan, 6-passenger BODY No C 2205 C = built at Fremont, CA 2205 = 2205th 4519 built at Fremont
  22. Here is some 1941 paint code info from the "Buick for 1941: Prices, Colors, Terms, Equipment, Accessories" booklet revised January 23,1941.
  23. ST 76 4AJ29 G 035640 BDY TR 97N A51 36L 36U PNT 12C 80045 76 = 1976 model year 4AJ29 = Fisher body style number 4 = Buick (division) A = A-body platform J = Regal 29 = 4-door colonnade sedan G = body built at Framingham, MA 035640 = sequential body number, no relation to VIN Trim 97N = Firethorn Vinyl (Oxen and Madrid grain) A51 = seat option code = Strato bucket seats 36L 36U = solid Boston Red Metallic 12C = build date = third week (C) of December (12) 1975 80045 = broadcast/sequence number, also found on buildsheet
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