WQ59B Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Pic is from 'Young's Lubricants'- a Pennsylvania company started in 1890 (still in business). They captioned the pic '1910'- but who knows if that's the year of the photo or the truck. It appear that the central wheel is the drive wheel. Are those large springs linked toward the front axle? Any ideas/info on a make or would this have been home-built? Certainly unique. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikewest Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Im sure its a one off conversion of a horse drawn oil tanker. The large springs are pulling that drive wheel forward in essence downward to give it traction. Its a cool old thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcticbuicks Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 looks like a stone wheel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertexplorer Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 (edited) I scanned this from a book I have called “Automotive Reflections” by Lloyd Van Horn. Made in 1910 by the Grover Traction Truck company it sure looks like this is the company that made the truck. Although the truck has some differences the similarities are too numerous to dismiss especially the unusual drive mechanism, a different model or prototype maybe? This book has the only reference to the Grover Traction Truck Company that I could find anywhere and the only vehicle I’ve ever seen with type of drive mechanism. Edited November 28, 2023 by Desertexplorer (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lahti35 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 3 hours ago, arcticbuicks said: looks like a stone wheel Yabba Dabba Do! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 The truck has the look and feel of a Schacht to me. I am not aware of any Schacht trucks of that size but if they were made, it would be the natural progression from the buggy they made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Desertexplorer said: I scanned this from a book I have called “Automotive Reflections” by Lloyd Van Horn. Made in 1910 by the Grover Traction Truck company it sure looks like this is the company that made the truck. Although the truck has some differences the similarities are too numerous to dismiss especially the unusual drive mechanism, a different model or prototype maybe? This book has the only reference to the Grover Traction Truck Company that I could find anywhere and the only vehicle I’ve ever seen with type of drive mechanism. What do you think that guy riding left side shotgun is grinning about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intimeold Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 That Grover Traction Truck, seems to be hauling scrap cast-iron. That would be a very heavy load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcticbuicks Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 (edited) would sure be scary down hill....sitting way up there .....with the stone wheel in low gear skidding along trying to slow down....... and in the second pic i picture both guys pulling on the brake lever with what appears to be horse wagon style brakes [blocks rubbing on outside of rear wheels ]......the wheels look like bear grease wood on steel spindle no bearings.......most of these heavy wagons had a animal grease pail hanging under chassis which i do not see in pic......and the first pic unit must have drum brakes on rear with outer brake band maybe ?...........would be a bit of work changing a stone wheel on the side of the road Edited November 30, 2023 by arcticbuicks (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desertexplorer Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 What’s fascinating is the chain mechanism in both photos. It goes from the drive wheel to the front axle and looks like as the chain mechanism is drawn tighter it exerts more downward pressure on the drive wheel giving the truck more traction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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