skinnerbird Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I have a photo that I'm trying to date. I'm guessing it's about 1960, but not sure. The car is a new model, so dating the model will give me the approximate photo date. The scooped front fender seems distinctive, but I haven't be able to match it. Thanks for your help! Geoffrey Librarian, Sonoma County Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 55er Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1958 Lincoln. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnerbird Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 Excellent! Thanks so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Boehm Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Who are the people in the photo? It looks like a young Richard Nixon on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONTIAC1953 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, Tom Boehm said: Who are the people in the photo? It looks like a young Richard Nixon on the left. that is not Richard M. Nixon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONTIAC1953 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 the 1958-1960 Lincoln models were never a "hardtop convertible", there were convertibles, hardtop coupes, and four door hardtop sedans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, pontiac1953 said: the 1958-1960 Lincoln models were never a "hardtop convertible", there were convertibles, hardtop coupes, and four door hardtop sedans. They were also available as a four door sedan. Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom Boehm said: Who are the people in the photo? It looks like a young Richard Nixon on the left. You insult the poor fellow!😁 Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pont35cpe Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 And not Ozzie Nelson, on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studeous Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Well, if those are jeeps for sale, these two must be finance guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONTIAC1953 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, 8E45E said: They were also available as a four door sedan. Craig yes, and longer wheelbase limo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-mman Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 What up with the scale? One side has the 58 Lincoln full line catalogue the other side has a folder(?) or accordion file(?) yet the Lincoln catalogue appears heavier. Maybe they are trying to say that the new Lincoln "carries more weight"? 28 minutes ago, pontiac1953 said: yes, and longer wheelbase limo. The Formal sedan and limo were only in 1959 & 60 and used the same wheelbase as the regular cars (sedans) No jump seats standard leg room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnerbird Posted December 13, 2022 Author Share Posted December 13, 2022 The two guys are G. K. Hardt (left), president of G.K. Hardt Auto Sales in Santa Rosa, California, and his vice president and manager of used car sales, Jim Gondola (right). According to an ad in the Santa Rosa Press Democrat in 1958, they were an authorized dealer for "Continental - Lincoln - Mercury - Edsel - Jeep 4-wheel drive -- and NOW the economical American Motors Rambler." They also had a good used car operation. The scales sculpture was in their sales lot, but I don't know much more about it. In my higher resolution copy of the photo, you can just make out that there's a stack of prints in the right-hand pan showing an image of a couple next to a car with its headlights on. Dunno the significance of that, either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-mman Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 This is what is in the right scale pan. Looks like there might be a few corners fanned out. More than one copy. Just as an FYI the 1958 model year was hit with a huge (Eisenhower) recession. The middle and higher priced cars (Lincoln, Mercury, Edsel) were just sitting on the lots, nobody wanted them. The Jeep would have had its buyers who needed such a vehicle (people didnt buy them for recreation or status back then) Only Rambler- AMC had increased sales for 1958 (an economy car) so this dealer is probably in trouble financially and the new Rambler franchise was a badly needed life line. To learn more about the troubled 1958 model year, search out "You auto buy now" a government program to promote auto sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, m-mman said: What up with the scale? One side has the 58 Lincoln full line catalogue the other side has a folder(?) or accordion file(?) yet the Lincoln catalogue appears heavier. Maybe they are trying to say that the new Lincoln "carries more weight"? . At about 2 1/2 tons, one 1958 Lincoln weighted what two 1958 Rambler Amercians did together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnerbird Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 Awesome! That's exactly what's in the pan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8E45E Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 14 hours ago, m-mman said: Only Rambler- AMC had increased sales for 1958 (an economy car) so this dealer is probably in trouble financially and the new Rambler franchise was a badly needed life line. The Thunderbird also saw a huge increase in sales for 1958, being a four-seater for the first time. A good thing, since they both shared production lines at Wixom, as 1958 Lincoln Division sales which everyone knows, was very poor, and losing money for Ford in those years. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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