Roger nelms Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) found a old car possibly a Ford Model A in the woods by my house, and we were just wondering how to identify it for sure? The problem is we just found the bare frame of the car We want to know whatp it is Thank you Edited July 18, 2022 by Roger nelms (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Definitely not a Ford. We need more pics from different angles and some measurements - distance from front to rear axle etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 The remains of the tail lamp/ license bracket appears to be Model T Ford but is not original to the frame. Guess on the frame mid-1920s Chevrolet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 No rear kick up on the frame so is not a Chrysler product unless it it a very early Dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger nelms Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 Was on rim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger nelms Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 Looks like a durant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Most basic model in the Durant line up. Very much a Plymouth / Ford / Chevy competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger nelms Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 What it worth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Actually a STAR built by Durant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 What's it worth ? Not very much unfortunately. Pretty low demand for lower end cars like a Star. Even a complete , unrestored Star wouldn't be of all that much value. A frame and a few parts , $50.00 - $75.00 on a good day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger nelms Posted July 21, 2022 Author Share Posted July 21, 2022 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE SOTO Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, Roger nelms said: Thanks Would make a good frame for a Hot Rod or Early Gow Job. I've had several odd ball's like this over the years. Strip all parts off the frame & sell as STAR parts to a STAR guy .. He may even want the frame. I've posted frames like this on Hot Rod sites and sold for $200-$400 depending on condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 That is a nice flat frame with front and rear axles so yes, it would have value to early speedster guys and hot rod guys. Somebody was looking for a frame like this recently on this forum not 6 months ago. Moreover, it looks like the muffler is still on the frame. It has value by itself. Then, you have the hubcaps, which are collectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 I have a 27 T touring front 1/2 { an old timey , Gow Job favorite. } windshield, decent rad and shell. Sitting on a so- so 1925 or so frame { good front and rear cross members} for sale right now. Asking $450.00 { Canadian } , pocket change in USD. Been for sale locally for 3 weeks , { no one in their right mind would ship this }, and a total of 0 interest. Last year it would have been gone at once. This year with inflation what it is , everyone is holding their wallets very tightly. In this part of the world at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Roger nelms said: What it worth It will also depend on your location, I can tell you don;t live by me so the cost of shipping would be a deal killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwatson Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 The hub cap is collectable and saleable. If brass, it should clean up nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1912Staver Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 Star, hub cap value these days ? Probably all of $10.00 - $20.00. I may be way off, but I don't think so. The vast majority of these 1920's ,small car hubcaps rarely seem to go for very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, 1912Staver said: Star, hub cap value these days ? Probably all of $10.00 - $20.00. I may be way off, but I don't think so. The vast majority of these 1920's ,small car hubcaps rarely seem to go for very much. Agree. That's pretty rough. It's something that 99.9% of collectors will already have so on the table at Hershey, a couple of bucks to a youngster who wants to start a collection. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted July 21, 2022 Share Posted July 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Terry Bond said: Agree. That's pretty rough. It's something that 99.9% of collectors will already have so on the table at Hershey, a couple of bucks to a youngster who wants to start a collection. Terry I thought EVERYONE had at least one STAR hub cap....here's mine.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Saxton Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) That torsion- stiffening tube should be specific identification. The name Flint comes to mind, though I have never seen one. It may have been above mid-level Durant range. Chatter about frames like this being ideal to make "speedsters" worries me, because you could easily destroy the opportunity for something unique to be restored correctly as it originally existed. The worst example in recent years resulted in the heroic effort of an Englishman altering the chassis frame of a chain-drive car which had been stripped where it had lain upside down in a deep gully when it ran off the road many years before. John Medley found report of the accident in a local newspaper, and identified the make of car. The name of the family who owned the property was still in the telephone directory. The man who John spoke to re-directed him to telephone his Mother. Yes, she had walked to the crash site in the morning following the accident, and her mother had taken photos of the car lying upside down. Would John like to have the photos her mother took???!!! Stuart Middlehurst brought home the chassis frame, and a single cylinder barrel with a gudgeon pin score up the bore. So the man in Scandinavia has a full set of cylinder barrels for the brilliant first of Ferdinand Porsche's sports racing designs for Austro Daimler; but no chassis to build it on. To build a fast and effective racer it is best to study the books which show what was achieved with T Fords in the 1920s. One Fronty Ford finished fifth behind four Millers at Indianapolis. Ivan Saxton Edited July 22, 2022 by Ivan Saxton I was dog-tired, and Coolie-Kelpie cattle dog wanted to sleep (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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