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Garage Build Spring/Summer 2022-update Oct2023


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I we are getting closer to the exterior structure being complete the tasks to finish up are getting smaller in size so I will just show a few of the small projects I have completed over the last week, the first one was installing the 2 man doors. 

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3 minutes ago, edinmass said:

If you hit the power ball for two billion………call me. I’ll help you finish setting up your shop……..😎

I'll send you the money in the mail if you go buy me the winning ticket..😇......and by the way Crown Royal is also my drink of choice...so there is alway some on hand.

 

You would be surprised how many Canadians that live close to the border will go and buy tickets when the power ball draws get up into these cray winners. It always seems funny to me a person from another country could win the big prize. 

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A couple other things to note....spray foam is supposed to be going in later this week and the garage doors will go in after that....the garage door guy suggested to wait till after the spray foam just in case they make a mess. It will be nice to get the building closed up and I can finally get my cars back home from my dads. They are starting to call for some snow next week so maybe Saturday I will get at least 2 of my cars home for the winter.

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2 hours ago, coachJC said:

Next was most of the red around the front section of the porch. I have not finished around the doors yet as I am waiting for the trim to come in...I am hoping for this Wednesday.


 

 

According to Eddie Murphy in 48 Hours, we all need more trim! 😎

 

We should probably have the Grand Opening party after the weather improves. I’ll bring a few bottles of Crown.

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Thursday morning between 8:30 and 9 the guys showed up to do the spray foam walls, poly the ceiling , vent and insulate the eaves for the blown-in insulation. I stuck around in only for about 20 min after they arrived to make sure everything was good then I had to head to work. When I got home around 5pm the place was clean and the end result looked fantastic. The thickness of the spray foam is 2in of closed cell foam which gives you a R14 rating and it seals everything up tight.

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The trim I ordered 3 weeks ago finally arrived on Friday, I went it picked it up bright and early Saturday morning so I could finally complete the metal on the exterior of the building. It is nice to finally have that done.

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Here is a small and not very exciting thing ...I built the attic excess hole. The step around the bottom is the finish height for a metal ceiling and that is where the J trim will butt up against. Projects have kind of gotten to just weekend work as it is dark when I get home from work now, and I am back to coaching Basketball as that time of year is upon us again, so that is 3 nights a week.

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Had the boys come out and help did a trench 16 inches deep from my propane tank to my shop a couple weeks ago, then a buddy of mine who works in the gas industry ran my gas line for me. The yellow line you see wrapped around the ends of the line above the ground is a tracer that is laid in the trench 4 or 5in above the gas line so just in case someone is digging and did not do a locate they will catch the tracer before they catch the gas line in the ground (hopefully anyways). Regulator and connections still to be made but the underground stuff is complete.

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On 11/18/2022 at 8:26 PM, Bills Auto Works said:

So cool to see your progress! It has been 18 years since I built mine & 4 years since I added on to it!

 

Any particular reason your tank is so far away from your building???

 

God Bless

Bill

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/nationwide-single-car-transport-hauling-open-or-enclosed.614419/

I am using the same tank for my garage that I have to heat my house, that is why it is the distance it is from the garage.

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Over the weekend I had my boys out to strap the ceiling.....it is all 1x4 strapping spaced at 3ft centers.....I am going to put a white metal ceiling in down the road it is just not in the budget to do at this time.

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My garage doors got installed yesterday...woooohoooo!!!.....I am so happy to finally have it closed in. It was a bit of a pain last weekend with the lake effect snow and all the snow coming inside. 2 doors have openers and 1 is just a chain. Fit is good and the colour matched way better than I expected. The only issue is the metal door trim and the seal don't overlap,(which you can see in the last picture), so I'm going to need to make something up to cover the exposed wood. The installer says that issue has come up alot lately in garage door installs they are doing. Sorry the last pic came out a bit blurry.

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With the building now closed in I can go and get my final inspection from the town next week and get some money back from them, 🙃 

Electrical panel and wiring is on the agenda for this weekend. Momma can't park inside till their is hydro so I better get a moving.

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2 hours ago, coachJC said:

I am going to put a white metal ceiling in down the road it is just not in the budget to do at this time.

Looks terrific with the doors.  Can you slip the appropriate color metal fascia under what's already there from the inside to cover the exposed wood?  What's your plan for the walls?

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2 hours ago, EmTee said:

Looks terrific with the doors.  Can you slip the appropriate color metal fascia under what's already there from the inside to cover the exposed wood?  What's your plan for the walls?

Over the weekend I will take a better look and decide what my best options will be to cover the exposed area. To add some metal fascia which is an option I am thinking about, I would need to remove the door seal, I am also thinking about going to Home Depot and looking at some wood trim that would match up with the height of the seal then colour match the charcoal and paint the wood trim. I need to look at it more and take some time and think about it. 

 

I should get a picture of the door seal it is pretty neat, it is not the old school aluminum flange with big black rubber seal on it that we are used to seeing. I will try to remember to post a pic over the weekend.

 

For the walls I am thinking it will be finished one side 3/4 plywood around the bottom 4ft that I will paint white ,then either metal or a plastic panel to finish to the ceiling.

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1 hour ago, edinmass said:

What’s all that white stuff on the ground? 😎

 

Im installing a outdoor shower this week…….2/3rds done. 😝

 

We were just on the edge of all that lake effect snow off of Lake Erie last weekend, we got about 8in which is no where near the 6ft + that got dropped south of Buffalo where the Bills play. Lake affect snow is funny my parents are 8miles straight north from my home and got maybe a 1/2in.

 

Ed, I would not of expected that you would need a privacy screen for your shower.😁

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6 hours ago, coachJC said:

For the walls I am thinking it will be finished one side 3/4 plywood around the bottom 4ft that I will paint white ,then either metal or a plastic panel to finish to the ceiling.

You might want to consider peg board from the 4' level up. Lowes has a heavy pegboard that has a white finish already applied. You may not need it everywhere but you will be able to hang stuff anywhere you want.

 

I have white metal for a ceiling in an attached carport and love the way everything lights up when a float light hits it. I was originally going to put in a few lights and even wired for them so I could cut through later but just a flood light angled up on one ends makes plenty of light for a car port. I have though about adding it to my shop ceiling just for light reflecting.

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What’s all this talk about a budget and waiting? I thought we explained it all to your better half when we covered the cement pad outside. Maybe I need to have a chat with her to “straighten her out”. Of course, like all my other friends…..I’ll be on her shxt list! Seems most ladies think I’m a bad influence on their husbands car hobby budget. She doesn’t need the new dish washer as bad as you need tools and equipment for the shop. 😎

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I worked for an overhead door installer for several years and we used a vinyl trim to seal the door.It was about 3/8" thick and about 1 1/2" wide,with one side having a 1/2" wide flexible seal on it that was tight against the door. It sealed the top and sides of the door very well,making the door nearly air tight.However,I remember it coming in only white.It may could be painted,but we never painted any.

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This pic below is the kind of seal I was expecting to get with my garage doors and if this is what I got it would of covered my gap from my door jam metal. This is also the type of seal my neighbour got on his garage doors when his garage doors were installed by the same company that did mine a couple weeks earlier. He went with industrial style doors with the look you see below, white and just a basic looking door.

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 The style of door I went with is a residential style door and coloured to match my house and garage colours. The seal they supply is the same rubber but it is coloured to match the door colour and is designed as a hidden fastener mount so you don't see the screws but it is only 1" wide therefore it did not cover as much as I had hoped. I will ad this was not totally unexpected when I saw the results. As this is the first time doing something like this there is a few things I was not aware of while building and the garage door framing and trim detail was different then what I thought when doing my metal ordering.

 

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Before I hit "submit reply" on my posts I always reread to make sure it makes sense and check all my grammatical errors, then after I post I always reread again and it seems like 90% of the time I find another error and I have to edit my post. You will notice under most of my posts there is always a (Edited...see edit history)..I just can't seem to get it right the first time...lol🙃

 

did it again used a capitol T on "there" instead of a small t......😡

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On 11/25/2022 at 1:04 PM, coachJC said:

For the walls I am thinking it will be finished one side 3/4 plywood around the bottom 4ft that I will paint white ,then either metal or a plastic panel to finish to the ceiling.

I used 7/16" OSB sheathing inside the garage all the way to the ceiling, put it in with screws so I could take pieces down to get inside the walls later.  I've done that to add wiring, etc.  I left it unpainted but there are fire-retardant paints that make sense. Lots of things have been screwed to the OSB.  I'm not a fan of plastic panels in the garage as they are too flammable.  We installed strapping for a ceiling, but I haven't done that yet, though with the current cost of heat, it might be worthwhile.  The full walk-up stairway to the 12 ft x 36 ft attic room has worked out well.

 

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48 minutes ago, Gary_Ash said:

I used 7/16" OSB sheathing inside the garage all the way to the ceiling, put it in with screws so I could take pieces down to get inside the walls later.  I've done that to add wiring, etc.  I left it unpainted but there are fire-retardant paints that make sense. Lots of things have been screwed to the OSB.  I'm not a fan of plastic panels in the garage as they are too flammable.  We installed strapping for a ceiling, but I haven't done that yet, though with the current cost of heat, it might be worthwhile.  The full walk-up stairway to the 12 ft x 36 ft attic room has worked out well.

 

 

 

The more I think about it, the more I think it will be wood all the way to the ceiling, but that is still a project for the future.

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I have been working at getting my electrical rough-ins started. I have dug the trench from my house to my garage and located my panel on the wall in an easily accessible location. I have also located my electrical boxes around the shop where I think I will need them then added a few more. I still need to get my outside GFCI boxes in and the boxes for my outside lights so I can get my rough-in inspection done. I have bought some wire and am pricing out my run of #3 wire from my house panel to my new garage panel and holy crap talk about sticker shock. Now I understand why wire is locked up in our big box stores.

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I have brought a couple of my cars home from my dad's place and when we got the snow a couple weeks ago my boys brought our snowmobiles home from the neighbours. Starting to fill up the empty space. Still have lots of room to go, as I do have 2 more cars at my dads that will come home in the springtime. Momma is enjoying the indoor parking. 

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9 hours ago, Gary_Ash said:

And you’ll need the RapidAir 3/4” line set to put a compressed air outlet by each bay, fed by a real 5 hp compressor and large tank. 

I will have to admit I had not heard of RapidAir previously to this. Did a google search and I have to say that is a nice solution for adding air lines to the garage. I will have to do some more research to see where I can get it here in Canada. Thanks for the suggestion Gary.

 

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Just some little news today as I got my Electrical permit. As an home owner in Ontario I am allowed to pull my own permit and do my own electrical work. I do have 2 inspections that are required and they are a rough-in inspection and a final inspection. The rough-in Inspection take place after all the outlet boxes and all branch circuit wiring is complete prior to any wiring is concealed. The final inspection is done when it's complete to make sure it complies with the Ontario Electrical Safety Board. Inspections are done by the ESA (Electrical Safety Authority). My neighbour was a Licensed Electrician up to 3yrs ago so I have him to use for guidance to make sure I am doing thing properly, he has helped me out previously when I did some renos on my house.

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Lots and lots of outlets, some at waist height so they don't get blocked by stuff on the floor.  Be sure to add 240 volt outlets for air compressor, welders, machine tools, even if you don't own them now.  I never heard anyone complain that they have too many outlets.  A circuit for some small overhead lights with a motion sensor is good for when you walk into the dark garage with your arms full of heavy parts.  I bought some wifi-enabled switches so I can turn on or off the main lights from inside the house, ditto for the thermostat.  I just say, "Alexa, turn on the garage lights" or "Alexa, set the garage thermostat to 55 degrees."  With (at least) one Alexa in the house and one in the garage, you can use it to look up stuff on the Internet, play music, and your wife can "drop in" to tell you dinner is ready.

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4 hours ago, Gary_Ash said:

Lots and lots of outlets, some at waist height so they don't get blocked by stuff on the floor.  Be sure to add 240 volt outlets for air compressor, welders, machine tools, even if you don't own them now.  I never heard anyone complain that they have too many outlets.  A circuit for some small overhead lights with a motion sensor is good for when you walk into the dark garage with your arms full of heavy parts.  I bought some wifi-enabled switches so I can turn on or off the main lights from inside the house, ditto for the thermostat.  I just say, "Alexa, turn on the garage lights" or "Alexa, set the garage thermostat to 55 degrees."  With (at least) one Alexa in the house and one in the garage, you can use it to look up stuff on the Internet, play music, and your wife can "drop in" to tell you dinner is ready.

 Some GOOD ideas, Gary.    I once had a shop/garage  that started as just a shed.  When I wired it, I ran two circuits just for outlets.  An outlet every four feet or so along the front of the 20 foot work bench. Each 4 way outlet was fed by BOTH circuits, one on the left , one on the right.  Two tools? no problem. one left, one right, never an extension.

 

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15 hours ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said:

Each 4 way outlet was fed by BOTH circuits, one on the left , one on the right.  Two tools? no problem. one left, one right, never an extension.

The same can be accomplished with single duplex outlets by breaking the tabs between the upper and lower sockets.

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