C3 Garage Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Working on a 1953 Chrysler T & C Wagon with a hemi and fluid drive transmission. When disengaging the clutch, the clutch pedal sticks to the floor. Can lift it with my foot and car drives fine. Any suggestions or tips on adjusting it to release as designed? Thanks in advance for any information. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 There should be a long return spring under the floor, maybe it is missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RansomEli Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Check the clutch linkage, too. If a bushing is worn out or misaligned you'll have that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterc9 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Some cars in that era had a grease fitting on the pedal pivot . You could access it from under the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3 Garage Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 17 hours ago, Rusty_OToole said: There should be a long return spring under the floor, maybe it is missing? The overcenter spring is there, but that's the only spring I see that's involved with the clutch. There is a grease fitting and it's been lubed Will check more closely to see if the bushing is worn excessively. Car is an older concours quality restoration.ks for the suggestions. Hopefully, something reltively simple and I can figure it out. Thanks so much for the tips and suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 A while back there was discussion about a 1948 Chrysler, this was one of the photos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3 Garage Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 Thanks for the photo. I really appreciate your help, but that looks quite different than the setup on the Chrysler. I really think there would be a return spring. Hopefully, someone will be able to enlighten me one way or the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 3 hours ago, C3 Garage said: Thanks for the photo. I really appreciate your help, but that looks quite different than the setup on the Chrysler. I really think there would be a return spring. Hopefully, someone will be able to enlighten me one way or the other. Just got out my 1953 DeSoto book, don’t have a Chrysler book for 1954. Will post some info from the DeSoto that might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 As you probably already know, an over-center spring helps push after the pedal is down a little, making the clutch not be super stiff at the bottom of travel. My best guess is that the clutch itself should be pushing back hard enough to pop the spring over center, and that the clutch is either misadjusted or has slop in the linkage that should not be there. Do you have a shop manual for this beast? The whole point of an over center spring is to have an normal-feeling clutch pedal that does not get progressively harder to push near the bottom of travel. A return spring is a step in exactly the wrong direction. That said, cars of the era usually did not want to spin the throwout bearing all the time. I would expect a light return spring in the system somewhere, just enough to lift the bearing off the pressure plate, but probably not near enough to counteract the over-center spring. Has it ever worked? If someone stuck a diaphragm-style pressure plate in where a coil-spring pressure plate belongs, that could do it. I hope you get a better answer than this. Let us know what you find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Maybe these photos will help. Chrysler and DeSoto are usually very similar. S16 and S17 are V8 models for DeSoto. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C3 Garage Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 Thanks so much for the input, AND PICS! I'll be addressing this again at the end of the week, and with the gracious assistance from everyone and images provided by TerryB, hopefully, I'll be able to figure this out. And yes, Bloo, according to the owner, it did work fine before. Thanks, again to all. I'll certainly let you know how it turns out. Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 Check and adjust free play and other issue is the O/C spring adjustment. I use the factory tool to adjust these springs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c49er Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 MMaybe some more complete help pics... I know you don't have the tool...but just to show a close up of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard805 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 Hey guys, I also just found out I'm having to deal with this problem. I might be missing some small parts to this same clutch control linkage. 1953 Chrysler New Yorker Deluxe. Any idea where I could get either a complete one or just parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted March 5, 2022 Share Posted March 5, 2022 37 minutes ago, Richard805 said: Hey guys, I also just found out I'm having to deal with this problem. I might be missing some small parts to this same clutch control linkage. 1953 Chrysler New Yorker Deluxe. Any idea where I could get either a complete one or just parts? Try French Lake Auto Parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard805 Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 Thank you keiser31. So C3 Garage what did you ever figure out for this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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