Ron Harris ll Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Hello! First post so hope I'm in the right place. This was given to me by my grandfather years ago before he passed, I think this may be a 1920's BRONZE ISOTTA FRASCHINI SPIRIT OF TRIUMPH radiator mascot? I believe this was also used on the 1930 Duesenberg also? Just looking for a value and desirability on this. It seems to be made in several pieces and is embossed with F. Bazin on the base. Any guidance would be appreciated. Be safe and be well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drwatson Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Very Nice! I'm wondering if yours is the "Petite" or the "Grande" ? As mentioned at this site: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/triomphe-duesenberg-car-mascot-1877428057 One just sold on ebay for $650, missing its wheel. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-DUESENDBERG-1930s-HOOD-ORNAMENT-CAR-RADIATOR-MASCOT-DOG-BONE-F-BAZIN-/402024025385?hash=item5d9a7fcd29%3Ag%3AfYsAAOSwzVdeD~DE&nma=true&si=mwfieYhapYbwUOrHgdV05Pm%2FU%2FY%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I've never seen one of those on a Duesenberg in my life. And I've seen a lot of Duesenbergs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagefinds Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 The book Motoring Mascots of the World shows several different ornaments very close to that for late 20's into early 40's Packards but none exactly like yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Neat art deco radiator ornament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwells Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Ron Harris, Here's some more info on your mascot, 'Spirit of Triumph.' 1920 Spirit of Triumph Car Mascot, Hood Ornament "'Triomphe' by F.Bazin. Spirit of Triumph mascot, suitable for Isotta Fraschini car. 1920. Silvered bronze, signed, superb totally original mascot. This is the larger and heavier version of the two produced. Photographed and described in Michel Legrand book 'Mascottes Automobiles' Plate 530. This is the rarest of all to locate, and is a totally correct earliest example." From http://www.mascot-mania.co.uk: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Harris ll Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 What fantastic info. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Harris ll Posted April 12, 2020 Author Share Posted April 12, 2020 Do you think I should restore this piece or leave it as is? The Nickel plating is completely gone but I would love to see it in shiny bronze. I know patina is important and shining it up would possibly devalue it. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Whatever it is worth right now, it will be worth less if you mess with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 I agree, don't do anything to it or value will go down. Many a person has found a rare coin, for example, and "shined it up," thinking it's worth more that way, nope. Collectors want original condition for many items, and any attempt to "fix" devalues the item. Is it for sale, or are you just curious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wetherbee Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 It’s currently on eBay and doing quite well considering the amount of time left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 So here are the different scenarios: 1. Somebody stole the pictures and text from this thread and started a scam auction. Seller has zero feeback so possible. But auction has more photos than we have here. 2. Seller came on here to get free advice, never revealed that he was selling or that he has an auction going. Bad mojo. 3. OP is actually thinking about buying it, but that would make his original post a complete fabrication. Worse mogo. I think we are too nice to newbies looking for advice. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1920s-BRONZE-ISOTTA-FRASCHINI-SPIRIT-OF-TRIUMPH-radiator-mascot/353038971813 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Maybe we could get a commission? I see it all the time, but we operate in good faith and try to be helpful. The forum is well known as the place to go for help and info so although not everybody is going to be forthcoming, I hope it doesn't lessen the numbers and quality of responses. It helps educate everybody. Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Harris ll Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 hours ago, alsancle said: So here are the different scenarios: 1. Somebody stole the pictures and text from this thread and started a scam auction. Seller has zero feeback so possible. But auction has more photos than we have here. 2. Seller came on here to get free advice, never revealed that he was selling or that he has an auction going. Bad mojo. 3. OP is actually thinking about buying it, but that would make his original post a complete fabrication. Worse mogo. I think we are too nice to newbies looking for advice. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1920s-BRONZE-ISOTTA-FRASCHINI-SPIRIT-OF-TRIUMPH-radiator-mascot/353038971813 The seller on Ebay IS me. I sell baseball cards and such. There is no feedback because I had to restart my account because the old one got compromised. I was forthcoming in my OP when I said "Just looking for a VALUE and DESIRABILITY on this". AND "Any guidance would be appreciated." There is no Hardy Boys/Scooby Doo mystery to solve here. I had a item left to me with very little info, I didnt even know where to start with this thing, who better to guide me then experts here? Its not like I have a local antiques road show to go to and Pete at the local Mobil gas station has no clue. I got great info here about its origin. THAT answers Desirability. Now Value... It gets put on EBAY with a ridiculously high Reserve, THAT will answer the Value question. Its called research, no dark subterfuge here, no cloak and dagger...just due diligence. I am insulted at the accusation and Thank you for ruining an otherwise productive and educational experience. My JU JU is in tact, hows yours? Respectfully, ME AKA Roguerage0305 AKA Ron Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1927 Isotta Fraschini 8ASS Dual Cowl Phaeton https://blackhawkcollection.com/project/1927-isotta-fraschini-8ass-dual-cowl-phaeton/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Status Sold Price $1,100,000.00 https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1930-ISOTTA-FRASCHINI-TIPO-CABRIOLET-115979 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/am18/amelia-island/lots/r0128-1930-isotta-fraschini-tipo-8a-s-boattail-cabriolet-by-castagna/ $ 1.27 Million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike6024 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1930 Isotta Fraschini Tipo 8A SS Convertible Sedan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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