Mr Riviera Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Heard this interview on YouTube. And I still have the Hemmings Muscle Machines issue that it appeared in back in 2005. As a matter of fact, I have EVERY magazine I have ever seen that has 1st Gen Rivs in it back to at LEAST 1985. To say I love these cars would be a huge understatement. Still love your car, Dick! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Riviera Posted November 24, 2017 Author Share Posted November 24, 2017 Thanks , that car has been sold and I have a better one now ! Small emblem and every option . Thanks , Dick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnulfo de l.a. Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Dick, curious about the rear license plate frame on your former rivi. Is that a factory frame? Because of the top part of the frame,which appears to be a handle to pull down the assembly, it looks specific to the riviera.VERY nice car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Riviera Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Yes , factory frame . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jframe Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Mr Riviera said: Yes , factory frame . Bet that isnt easy to find now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnulfo de l.a. Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 VERY COOL FRAME ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnulfo de l.a. Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 On November 26, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Mr Riviera said: Yes , factory frame . Ed this is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, arnulfo de l.a. said: Ed this is it Not the 63 frame that came with the car. Way too wide and this one has a handle on the top. Nice but not the one. I think this was an over the parts counter frame from the dealership. I've seen these before. Just put a narrow door edge guard around the edge of the plate and youll be close. It would cover as much of the back of the plate as the front. Not much wider than the bead around the plate. Hardly noticeable. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 hours ago, RivNut said: Not the 63 frame that came with the car. Way too wide and this one has a handle on the top. Nice but not the one. I think this was an over the parts counter frame from the dealership. I've seen these before. Just put a narrow door edge guard around the edge of the plate and youll be close. It would cover as much of the back of the plate as the front. Not much wider than the bead around the plate. Hardly noticeable. ? Ed, I checked the `63 thru `65 Buick parts books today and the license plate frame illustrated in this thread is the correct factory frame for the `63 Riv...same part # for `63 thru `65. I dont know what you had on your Riv but if it didnt have the "handle" to pull down the license plate frame to fill the fuel tank then it wasnt factory. The other Buick models without the fuel fill behind the license plate had a plain stainless frame without the built in handle. Perhaps that is what was on your Riv? Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) I guess we'll never know what I had. The old man I bought the car from was very adamant about keeping everything "factory" except for what he had done to it for trailering. I'm wondering why the 64 and 65 window stickers don't mention it as the 63 did. If what is shown above "factory" then it must have come on every 64 and 65 that came out of the factory as standard equipment, not an over the counter part to be added later. How is this frame mounted to the plate? I can also imagine that the frame came in some sort of package for the buyer. The car would not have a plate on it from the factory. So you have to ask how many owners did not put the frame on the plate. Or It could have also been for a license plate for the front. Here's a promotional picture of a '63 that shows some kind of frame around a front plate. I don't know what kind of liberties were given to the promo people but they had to get the idea somewhere. Edited October 23, 2018 by RivNut (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 They have spring clips on the back I wasn't working at Buick dealership then, generally owners manuals, second set of keys, spinners, things of that nature are in the trunk and sorted out at the dealer. I've had a 63/4/5, all had this rear plate frame, none up front. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Where are all of them now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, RivNut said: Where are all of them now? The 63 I got from original owner in Sandiego, Dick S helped with the transaction. That car went to Australia. The 64 is here now The 65 came from Delaware, Ron DeG in Rochester bought it from Moore in McGungie (if you know him). I bought it from Ron, sold it to a Charter Member on this site...I believe the car is in Denmark now I have others too present and past but they didn't/don't have the plate frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 My point is that if these were standard on every first generation, there should have been over 100,000 of these produced. But there are none to be found. What has happened to over 100,000 license plate frames? They're not on the cars, they're not on eBay. The vendors who advertise in the Riview don't have them. I've not seen any on any cars at the ROA meets I've attended since 1989. ????????? Something's not quite making sense. Someone has to have an explanation as to where they all are. You can find the rear license plate holders anywhere, and the front holders are around. But NO FRAMES. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 They were built flimsy. The spring clip that holds the frame to the plate has a tiny rivet that wasn't made to last. How many cars still have the original spark plug wires with the rubber hole covers at the head? How many 65s have the bracket and clip that hold the heater control valve? Stuff gets tossed. I guess if both 63-65 Technical Advisors say these were original equipment that's good enough for me. Guess I been lucky, I see them often enough..Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Next time you spot one for sale, let me know. Thanks. Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 54 minutes ago, RivNut said: Next time you spot one for sale, let me know. Thanks. Ed Here's one right here...17th picture...looks like they threw a rod There's one right behind the oil pan..just have to look around, ED! https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Buick-Riviera-BASE/264002324542?hash=item3d77c3c83e:g:0vIAAOSwTFBbxRiz:rk:23:pf:0&vxp=mtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 hour ago, RivNut said: My point is that if these were standard on every first generation, there should have been over 100,000 of these produced. But there are none to be found. What has happened to over 100,000 license plate frames? They're not on the cars, they're not on eBay. The vendors who advertise in the Riview don't have them. I've not seen any on any cars at the ROA meets I've attended since 1989. ????????? Something's not quite making sense. Someone has to have an explanation as to where they all are. You can find the rear license plate holders anywhere, and the front holders are around. But NO FRAMES. ? Ed, Perhaps you havnt been looking for them because you did not know they were the original plate frames? I see them on some cars at the meets, they can be obtained on Ebay and occasionally NOS frames appear on Ebay. I have the rest.....LOL...point is, they are around Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I`m sure the license plate frames were shipped loose with the cars and the dealer was responsible for installation...or, the dealer was expected to keep them in stock and should have been delivered to the customer. Many of the frames didnt go out the dealership door with the cars. Back a few years at the Flint meet there was a vendor who spent many years at a Buick dealership and he had a STACK of new frames he had accumulated because they were never installed on the cars as intended. Gungee is also correct in that they are a PITA to swap a plate into and the fingers do fall off the frame. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, gungeey said: Here's one right here...17th picture...looks like they threw a rod There's one right behind the oil pan..just have to look around, ED! https://www.ebay.com/itm/1965-Buick-Riviera-BASE/264002324542?hash=item3d77c3c83e:g:0vIAAOSwTFBbxRiz:rk:23:pf:0&vxp=mtr LOL...good eyeball Steve! I think that might be the front frame... Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 One last question, if I may. Can anyone explain why the license frame is not listed on the 64 orv65 window sticker? Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 2 hours ago, gungeey said: The 63 I got from original owner in Sandiego, Dick S helped with the transaction. That car went to Australia. The 64 is here now The 65 came from Delaware, Ron DeG in Rochester bought it from Moore in McGungie (if you know him). I bought it from Ron, sold it to a Charter Member on this site...I believe the car is in Denmark now I have others too present and past but they didn't/don't have the plate frame. Steve, I communicated with a fellow a few months ago who had your `65 up for sale...he was on the east coast and said he purchased the car from a fellow that lived down the street who was a Riviera Nut. He was into old clocks big time if that is a clue. I inquired about the car because it was presented as a dual quad 425 but after vetting found it was a 401 car...I`m sure it was your former `65. Tom Mooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, 1965rivgs said: LOL...good eyeball Steve! I think that might be the front frame... Tom Did they come with two frames then? When I looked at this one, I didn't see any signs of the handle on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 1 minute ago, RivNut said: One last question, if I may. Can anyone explain why the license frame is not listed on the 64 orv65 window sticker? Thanks again. Ed, I`m not sure if it is written on the ORIGINAL window sticker (be careful, there are repros out there) but I`m sure it appears in the showroom catalog, etc... Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, RivNut said: Did they come with two frames then? When I looked at this one, I didn't see any signs of the handle on it. Ed, Your window sticker states "frame" which would imply only the rear was standard. This makes perfect sense as it aids the owner in fueling the car. They were frames available for the models which did not have the fuel fill behind the license plate and they did not have the "handle". These can be used on the front. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, 1965rivgs said: Steve, I communicated with a fellow a few months ago who had your `65 up for sale...he was on the east coast and said he purchased the car from a fellow that lived down the street who was a Riviera Nut. He was into old clocks big time if that is a clue. I inquired about the car because it was presented as a dual quad 425 but after vetting found it was a 401 car...I`m sure it was your former `65. Tom Mooney That was a pretty car BurgundyMist/Factory BlackTop/ White interior... Chicago Black Hawks Colors The one that started with JMoore was Turquoise.. pure show car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Steve, Black Hawks colors are RED, white and black...trust me on this one! But I still dig the reference... yes! Very, very cool colors...I have a soft spot for tri-colored `60`s Buicks! And your `65 was very sharp, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Curran Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Steve, I remember the burgundy mist car. It was stunning! I wish I kept your old turquoise mist car but I enjoyed it for the years that I had it. I believe it has changed hands 4-5 times since I sold it. It made its way to the left coast and was auctioned off last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I could tell that my car used to have the frame on the rear plate because there were factory spacers on the lower license plate mount that were there to allow the frame to clear the bumper when the gas filler door was pulled down. I removed them because I felt it looked better without the gap at the bottom between the plate and the bumper. My Dad's 65 had the frame when it was a new car, but it broke a few years later and was thrown away, probably why there aren't any around anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now