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1930 Ford Roadster From the Subrails Up!


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This is really just a pile of parts that I need to turn back into a roadster . No big history on the body just evidence of a 6 and a half inch channel !! So I ran to Ohio to pick it up now the fun begins.

heres a few pics to get this thread started .plenty more to come once i get the wheels turning

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firewalls out .

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the replacement isnt pretty with a little work it will be ok

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its looking like a ford factory more and more every day !

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well the firewalls came back from the blaster nice and bare.

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a few pictures of the messes

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not horrible by any means

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i had to use a ratchet strap to actually get the firewall back together .quite the stress crack

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and heres it all finished up . next is to get the subrails in order!

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no rust repair on this car . its amazingly solid

heres where we are at now .

an old torch cut

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i wish i knew how many spot welds and rivets ive drilled in the past few months !

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firewall sitting in place

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and the new subrail connectors

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everything is fitting well together for being a mismash of cowl and firewall and new connectors! nothing set in stone just yet just checking fit .

surprisingly the subrails are pretty damn close and should only need some minor tweaking to get them perfectly lined up !!

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got a ton done on jeffs car today . I got all the places primed that will be covered by subrails . underside of the subrail connectors primed and the subframe put together for the first time with the exact measurements off of the other roadster i have in the shop right now.

had to fix a few little spots before i started on the subrails though

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mesurments were

37 inches at the door pillar

31 1/16-1/8 " at the first subrail crossmember

35 7/16 " at the second crossmember

35 3/8 " at the third crossmember

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henry ford already made the jig for me landman!!

you really have to work off the subrails on these cars and get them to line up with the frame body mount holes.. the frame acts as the jig. once the subrails are true to measurements and the pillar where the doors attach are measured out, everything else can be made to fit off of them !

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damn i love when parts fit together like they are supposed to !!

rivets ready to be set

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hey look at that a roadster!!

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so i went and got the drivers side door and though hmmm this seems heavy. started grinding leaaad lead lead lead lead .

got the torch out ... i think we need a new door skin .

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well got a lot done on the cowl today . got the firewall spot welded in and got the cowl stripped and filled in some pin holes.got a few dents out as well

spot weld holes

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stripped down found some pinholes and old lead.

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welded up the pin holes and figured what the hell might as well fix up the old lead work and give the work i just did a light coat

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all finished up for today

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such a solid car!! welded up 1 pin hole!! a taste of lead to fix the lead thats probably been there since 1956 and im happy with it!!

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thanks first born !!

thanks durant!!

had to put it all back together after the move .. soon its going from the frame to the body cart

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onto the drivers door!!

a mess

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cracks in the hinge areas

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annnd some rot!

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the roadster is all subframed up!!

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cracks stripped

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tiged and smoothed

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on the fence about using this panel under the decklid pinholes everywhere some rot i cut out . i think its gonna be easier (time wise) to re skin and use the orig inner structure. I already chased some pin holes around while trying to weld them up .

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put a door on

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next onto the triangle pieces onto the rear quarters

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and how much the repops are off compared to orig ones

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once again removing the triangles

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and how much this side is off

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just realized there was a patch panel here as well . I dont know how i missed it .

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there is something missing .

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filled in some blanks . gonna grind the welds tomorrow

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epoxy primer on the inside of the new skin

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tomorrow they get stuck together!

its like a new door!

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and the new skin on !

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now we are getting somewhere

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also deskinned the panel under the decklid and got it in primer

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an older repop panel for below the decklid . not anyway like the ones they sell now

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i put Jeffs orig inners in it and i think this ones gonna fit like a glove!!

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no weird twists or turns and an even gap on the bottom of the subrail im excited!1

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well i put a door skin on the passenger side today as it would save about 6 hours of work total in the end betwen metal work and body work .

turns out jeff had a badly bent hinge as well if you notice the gap

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notice the gap after a little work with a big pair of channel locks

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this roadster is solid!!!

2 pinholes and 3 stres cracks !!

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a little mess from the old channel job

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patch seems a little big!

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nothing exciting here

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got it filled in but forgot the after picture

before

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a little after action

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i love the way this car fits together

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a little arts and crafts here today . i wanted to make a patch panel for the passenger side quarter

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heres what i can up with after a little work

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fitted up !!

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now i gotta fire up the tig

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took the bracket off for that rivets to the subframe

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now its getting there!!

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well the panel above the decklid needs some work... looks like at one time someone had some 47 chevy style hinges on it and changed it to a decklid instead of a rumble . boy that really stretched it to hell!

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brasssssssss my enemy!

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this panel was really really really stretched from the decklid hinges being bolted to it

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really dont want to think of how many shrinks are in it

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half way through welding the quarter in

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and from the back

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finished up the panel then burned some lead out of the bead

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getting back into shape one panel at a time!!

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cut out the big hunk of brass

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and filled in the hole with some sheetmetal

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the top was pretty rough where they shaved the reveal where the tab comes through for the top

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so i made up a new piece

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after some welding and filing i am pretty pleased with it

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well this is how i made the reveal for the top tab

really nothing fancy and reallly close to looking stock

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cut it put it in the vice to straighten it out and tacked it together

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after it was tigged in

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alot of work in this little area to get it back to looking right

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Flop,

I had a look at your video and have been a fan of your work from your first posts here. I'm sure that you're one of those that really get into your work while doing it and seldom, if ever, work with others although I could be wrong. I myself most often choose to and find it more productive working by myself. That being said I sure could enjoy a week of observing and learning somethings watching you work, don't worry as it's not going to happen, but you and a few others here have some skills that I truely greatly admire. Keep posting and we'll keep reading, watching and learning what we can. Scott...

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scotts I do work by myself. its a 1 man shop with 5 cars in right now . I appreciate the kind words and if you are ever in the Pittsburgh area you are more then welcome to stop by .

thanks luv2wrench!!

wheel wells

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old rot

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a little shrinker work has a new panel made up in no time

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gonna finish the welding up today and put the break on the bottom !

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wheel well finished up !!!

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drivers wheel well done !

still needs sanded out though

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soon to the sand blaster!! then primer!! then a little surprise!!

once again shaved top mounting tab and hole

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the patch .

cant get away with a straight piece you have to shrink it a little to get the curve

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and all welded up / didnt finish it off yet due to having to work on the area below!

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thats a whole lotta ford!

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the roadster is back in a pile!!

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clean clean clean metal

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and we couldn't erase history!!

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and the doors

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panel under decklid

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and the quarter!!

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dash rail

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i always try to get all the heavy hitting out of the way before primer . so the lip needed to be put back into place!

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package tray and inner bracing for the panel under the decklid!

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and some more quarter action!

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cowl and decklid will be finished up tomorrow!!

ts nice to see it an actual color ..well its still grey but atleast it has some shine!!!

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it was a welcome break . I feel refreshed and even more excited about work !!

starting to get the subframe back together

rivets in but now actually riveted !!

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comparing repop stuff to orig roadster stuff to see what needs modified !

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back of the rear seat riser

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the whole shebang!!

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really coming together now !

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got a little more done on the subframe!!

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next to make the last panel look the part

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well something seems to be missing here!

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how could they have forgotten these!!??

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since i couldnt straighten the repop pieces break out i decided to make a new piece to weld it . i will put the breaks in it tomorrow and start welding!!

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uhhhoh!!

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Well it wouldnt be complete with out the beads on the sides !. I needed to figure out a way to end the beads like ford did on the sides of this panel so I made a simple form out of wood !

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and here is my end result

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hopefully it gets riveted in today !!

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A bunch of working making the repop parts look better but now we are getting somewhere!!

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well the subframe is pretty much finished up ...minus a few brackets ... thats next !!:):)

well i got ahold of a nice henry bracket that rivets to the curved panel and bolts through the spare tire holder!

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sometimes you have to use some odd pieces to align the panels !!

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and the curved piece in place with the bracket riveted on

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the whole deal !!

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into epoxy primer

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the curved panel isnt bolted down thats why the lip is in the air

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all one color !

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stanchions gotta fit right ! kinda look sloppy here

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with a little work

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gaps gaps gaps

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setting a few last rivets

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a single color and its starting to resemble a car!

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so i did a little tapping to get a better fit of the corner...she was thin !

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also trimmed a little more to get a nicer fit

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:eek::eek:

moving along now !

well it took a little battling but it fit in its hole relatively well.

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getting everything lined up

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they are not the ovals ford had in them but they served their purpose. well at least the top and bottom holes

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dash rail . had a pretty big dent so that came back off

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curved panel with rumble stops installed

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package tray sitting in place . also borrowed some door handles to set the holes and d nuts!

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also faced the bolts to remove marking so they look more original .

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does anyone know why Henry used some square nuts and some regular nuts ? or some square nuts been replaced?

frames here!!

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frame is within an 1/8th o an inch of square and no noticeable sag !

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a few tiny messes

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and some screws

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first time on a frame and completely together is 40 plus years !!

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cleaning day with the giant was today !!

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Guest BillP

Flop Your work is brilliant! For me, these are some of the most entertaining posts on the web. I hear you were busted up, hope you are up and at 'em soon! Thanks

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