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So much confusion. Are they selling two cars? One a 16 sedan and one a 16 coupe? There is only one known coupe and that isn’t it. Btw, great cars but that motor is 60k to rebuild.

Usually you won't go broke betting some cool car is compromised, but the green Ascot is a GREAT real car.

Steve, you noticed the doors which makes this a Derby Speedster and not an Ascot. The cut doors make for quite a premium.

PURCHASED NEW BY A DOCTOR IN SHENANDOAH VALLEY OF VA. FOR HIS WIFE WHO NEVER ENJOYED DRIVING IT BECAUSE IT WAS "TOO LOUD AND USED TOO MUCH GAS" DRIVEN AND PARKED IN CARPORT OF HOME WITH 27345 MILES. LAST STATE REGISTRATION AND INSPECTION IN 1983. PRESENT OWNER HAS MOVED VEHICLE AND WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE THE MOTOR WAS NOT STUCK. CYLINDERS WERE LUBED UP AND MOTOR CRANKED OVER. SEVERAL OUNCES OF FUEL WERE POURED DOWN THROAT OF CARBURETOR AND MOTOR RAN. THE CAR IS ACTUALLY VERY RUST FREE. BLACK COMFORT KNIT INTERIOR IS IN REMARKEABLY GOOD CONDITION. FLOOR PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW THE MAJORITY OF THE DRAIN PLUGS STILL INTACT. FRONT FIBERGLASS EXTENSION PANEL IS CRACKED. MARTI REPORT INDICATES THE FOLLOWING: BUILT AT METUCHEN FACTORY 428 4V POLICE INTERCEPTOR V-8 ALUMINUM MANIFOLD. SHELBY 2 DOOR FASTBACK ACAPULCO BLUE PAINT FORD #3077-A BLACK KNIT BUCKET SEATS 3.50 CONVENTIONAL REAR AXLE C-6 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION. TILT WHEEL POWER DISC BRAKES EXTRA COOLING PACKAGE POWER STEERING TACHOMETER AND TRIP ODOMETER VISIBILITY GROUP SPORT DECK REAR SEAT. AUCTIONEER NOTES-WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO OWN 1 OF ONLY 432 SHELBY GT FASTBACKS RELEASED WITH THIS PAINT/TRIM CODE. HOW FANTASTIC IT WOULD OF BEEN HAD THIS CAR BEEN STORED INSIDE A CLOSED GARAGE. HOWEVER IT WASN'T- THE CEMENT FLOOR AND LIMITED EXPOSURE PROVIDED BY THE CARPORT CERTAINLY DID SPARE THE VEHICLE THE WEAR IT WOULD OF ENCOUNTERED IF IT HAD BEEN STORED COMPLETELY OUTDOORS EXPOSED TO THE ELEMENTS. IN MY OPINION THE CAR HAS VERY MINIMAL RUST AND CORROSION. IT APPEARS TO HAVE NEVER BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY TYPE OF WRECK OR HAD ANY PREVIOUS BODY WORK/REPAIRS. THE INTERIOR APPEARS AS IF IT COULD BE CLEANED UP AND USED AS IS. THIS CAR WOULD AFFORD A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO OWN A 2 OWNER CAR WITH VERY LITTLE MILEAGE. GREAT LAUNCHING POINT FOR A RESTORATION OR PRESERVE AS IS FOR A TIME CAPSULE OF YOU OWN. VEHICLE WAS DELIVERED TO KOONS FORD OF FALLS CHRUCH VA. THEN DEALER TRANSFERRED TO A FORD DEALER LOCATED IN SHENANDOAH VALLEY OF VA. THIS CAR IS BEING OFFERED FOR SALE THROUGH A SEALED BID AUCTION SOLICITATION. THE BID FORM CAN BE FOUND AS AN ATTACHMENT ON THIS SITE WHERE IT CAN BE FILLED OUT AND EITHER USPS SURFACED MAILED OR EMAILED BACK TO AUCTIONEER BY 5:00 PM ON APRIL 30TH 2021. AN INSPECTION IS OFFERED ON SAT APRIL 24TH AT 10:00 BY RSVP ONLY. EMAIL AUCTIONEER AT www.nta1153@verizon.net FOR INFORMATION ON ATTENDING THE INSPECTION ON 4/2421 QUESTIONS? PLEASE CALL NICK AT 703-966-8422

Matt, I’m personally familiar with the green car and to the best of my knowledge it is as built in 1928. Not a modern rebody in any way.

I've been talking about building a barn for 30 years. I mentioned to my friend the other day that I was putting over in a certain spot. He started laughing at me and said "You are never building a barn". He is probably right.

Which car did he want? The spohn bodied one? Those are hit or miss on the looks.

I copied my thoughts from the for sale thread. Wondering what you guys think? To understand the market for a car like this you can look at this comp from RM Monterey a couple of years ago. Identical Ascot with rock solid history brought 280K all in. There are four differences that I can see: 1. The yellow car had a rear deck added to it, in period or after. 2. The yellow car has a movie history. 3. The green car was built new with the body it carries. 4. The green car is one of a few that has no exterior door hinges. So, the question is how much is the deck and the movie history worth? Typically movie appearances (with a few notable exceptions) don't bring huge premiums.

You would have better luck posting a picture of the car itself.

You need to upload to YouTube and link it from here. I love the 41 Mopar business coupes.

Still no Classic but did a one hour loop in nice 60 degree March weather here in New England.

It took me two hours, but I got the selection switch mounted inside of the switch housing on our Cord. You may wonder why that would take two hours. You got to give it a try to understand. Next step is checking each gear position for continuity. I have not run the other end of the harness and it reaches all the way back in to the driver seat which will make things convenient.

To understand the market for a car like this you can look at this comp from RM Monterey a couple of years ago. Identical Ascot with rock solid history brought 280K all in. There are four differences that I can see: 1. The yellow car had a rear deck added to it, in period or after. 2. The yellow car has a movie history. 3. The green car was built new with the body it carries. 4. The green car is one of a few that has no exterior door hinges. So, the question is how much is the deck and the movie history worth? Typically movie appearances (with a few notable exceptions) don't bring huge premiums.

I can't imagine they started with a real car. At least I hope not.

Nice trio!

This there is really a 427 under that hood or a straight six?

Peerless?

I hope all you guys have been to the pickle factory? My dad has great Glenn Pray stories. Most of you should know the story of the school teacher who was able to buy out the Auburn Cord part of the ACD factory from Dallas Winslow in 1960. I've always liked these and if one of the turbo stick cars fell in my lap I might not be too proud to be seen in it.

Gatsby Rolls is still for sale, this time on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-Rolls-Royce-Phantom-I-/143983892340 See inspection report, full photos, videos and more at . Robert Redfords Gatsby Rolls. This is one of the very few cars ever to hold co-star status within a great American classic novel, an iconic movie, and an actor such as Robert Redford. This 1928 Rolls-Royce 40/50hp Phantom I Ascot Dual Cowl Sport Phaeton is nearly perfect after benefiting from a thorough restoration with marque experts with a total investment of about $1.2 million. We believe it is safe to say that between its provenance on the silver screen and the restoration, this is one of the most important Rolls-Royces in existence. F. Scott Fitzgerald selected a Rolls-Royce as the car to be featured in his classic and timeless novel, The Great Gatsby. The car was described in detail in the novel and was an important highlight in the movie as well. And with an all-star cast selected by Paramount studios, it was important that the Rolls-Royce was equally as stunning. Robert Redford starred alongside Mia Farrow to create this all-time classic movie. S304KP was just the right car to co-star with Robert Redford. It had been owned by Ted Leonard who was a well known collector from Seekonk, Massachusetts. The Rolls is likely the only Ascot sport phaeton built as a dual cowl. And this was one of the details F. Scott Fitzgerald included in his description of Jay Gatsbys Rolls: He saw me looking with admiration at his car. Its pretty, isnt it, old sport! He jumped off to give me a better view. Havent you ever seen it before? Id seen it. Everybody had seen it. It was a rich cream color, bright with nickel, swollen here and there in its monstrous length with triumphant hat-boxes and supper-boxes and tool-boxes, and terraced with a labyrinth of wind-shields that mirrored a dozen suns. Sitting down behind many layers of glass in a sort of green leather conservatory, we started to town. After being selected as The Gatsby Rolls, S304KP required its livery repainted in the creamy yellow combination and its leather interior to be dyed in an elegant green. The result was perfect. Chassis S304KP was originally a Town Brougham delivered to Mildred Loring Logan of New York City, and was later owned by American Tobacco Company president, George Washington Hill. There is no documented history in the Rolls-Royce factory Schoellkopf Cards from 1929 through 1964. The research determines that the Ascot body was originally mounted onto chassis S240RM and that the body was moved onto chassis S304KP sometime during or after 1945. The history of the Rolls is well researched and documented, and copies of the related factory and historical information accompany the motorcar. Mr. Leonard acquired the car just in time for the starring role as The Gatsby Rolls. The Leonards maintained ownership of S304KP for the next 36 years. In 2009, The Gatsby Rolls was sold at auction from Leonards estate to John OQuinn of Houston, Texas. Mr. OQuinn died suddenly a few months later, and the car was eventually sold to the current owners, for whom a ground-up restoration was completed from 2011 through 2019. Many of the leading experts were involved in the restoration. Steve Littin from Vintage & Auto Rebuilds in Chardon, Ohio did the full mechanical restoration and the paint and body restoration was performed by Shawn Robinson from Yesterdays in Tyler, Texas. The Gatsby Rolls is nearly perfect today after a total investment in the restoration of about $1.2 million. It would be welcomed at any concours event throughout the world, and had been invited to be shown at the 2019 Pebble Beach Concours. The elegant cream paint is excellent in all respects and is accented by the abundance of concours quality chrome. The green leather interior is complimented by the tan Haartz cloth canvas convertible top and the beautiful wood dashboard with chrome bezels. The Ascot body is widely considered one of the most stunning designs of the classic period. It is both sporty and elegant. We have an appraisal for The Gatsby Rolls supporting the asking price. But more importantly, we believe this Rolls is priced well. It is well known that such iconic classics that are indelibly fixed into our memories and culture, are sought after the world over. This explains the values for such items as the decrepit Bullet Mustang selling for $3.74 million in January 2020 and Paul Newmans Rolex selling for $17.8 million in October 2017. The Great Gatsby as a book has sold about 30 million copies and the number of people who have watch the classic movie is beyond estimation. This is an important fixture in Americas culture. This may be a once in a lifetime opportunity to acquire one of the most important Rolls-Royces in the world. The Gatsby Rolls is owned by The Chamberlain Foundation, a not-for-profit. Its purpose is to help educate future restorers of collector cars and watch makers. Certain tax advantages may be available to the purchaser of the motorcar. The Gatsby Rolls is available for viewing and inspection in Texas. Please call, text or email Harry Clark at 1.602.245.7200 or .

Is for sale again. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-Rolls-Royce-Phantom-I-/143983892340 See inspection report, full photos, videos and more at . Robert Redfords Gatsby Rolls. This is one of the very few cars ever to hold co-star status within a great American classic novel, an iconic movie, and an actor such as Robert Redford. This 1928 Rolls-Royce 40/50hp Phantom I Ascot Dual Cowl Sport Phaeton is nearly perfect after benefiting from a thorough restoration with marque experts with a total investment of about $1.2 million. We believe it is safe to say that between its provenance on the silver screen and the restoration, this is one of the most important Rolls-Royces in existence. F. Scott Fitzgerald selected a Rolls-Royce as the car to be featured in his classic and timeless novel, The Great Gatsby. The car was described in detail in the novel and was an important highlight in the movie as well. And with an all-star cast selected by Paramount studios, it was important that the Rolls-Royce was equally as stunning. Robert Redford starred alongside Mia Farrow to create this all-time classic movie. S304KP was just the right car to co-star with Robert Redford. It had been owned by Ted Leonard who was a well known collector from Seekonk, Massachusetts. The Rolls is likely the only Ascot sport phaeton built as a dual cowl. And this was one of the details F. Scott Fitzgerald included in his description of Jay Gatsbys Rolls: He saw me looking with admiration at his car. Its pretty, isnt it, old sport! He jumped off to give me a better view. Havent you ever seen it before? Id seen it. Everybody had seen it. It was a rich cream color, bright with nickel, swollen here and there in its monstrous length with triumphant hat-boxes and supper-boxes and tool-boxes, and terraced with a labyrinth of wind-shields that mirrored a dozen suns. Sitting down behind many layers of glass in a sort of green leather conservatory, we started to town. After being selected as The Gatsby Rolls, S304KP required its livery repainted in the creamy yellow combination and its leather interior to be dyed in an elegant green. The result was perfect. Chassis S304KP was originally a Town Brougham delivered to Mildred Loring Logan of New York City, and was later owned by American Tobacco Company president, George Washington Hill. There is no documented history in the Rolls-Royce factory Schoellkopf Cards from 1929 through 1964. The research determines that the Ascot body was originally mounted onto chassis S240RM and that the body was moved onto chassis S304KP sometime during or after 1945. The history of the Rolls is well researched and documented, and copies of the related factory and historical information accompany the motorcar. Mr. Leonard acquired the car just in time for the starring role as The Gatsby Rolls. The Leonards maintained ownership of S304KP for the next 36 years. In 2009, The Gatsby Rolls was sold at auction from Leonards estate to John OQuinn of Houston, Texas. Mr. OQuinn died suddenly a few months later, and the car was eventually sold to the current owners, for whom a ground-up restoration was completed from 2011 through 2019. Many of the leading experts were involved in the restoration. Steve Littin from Vintage & Auto Rebuilds in Chardon, Ohio did the full mechanical restoration and the paint and body restoration was performed by Shawn Robinson from Yesterdays in Tyler, Texas. The Gatsby Rolls is nearly perfect today after a total investment in the restoration of about $1.2 million. It would be welcomed at any concours event throughout the world, and had been invited to be shown at the 2019 Pebble Beach Concours. The elegant cream paint is excellent in all respects and is accented by the abundance of concours quality chrome. The green leather interior is complimented by the tan Haartz cloth canvas convertible top and the beautiful wood dashboard with chrome bezels. The Ascot body is widely considered one of the most stunning designs of the classic period. It is both sporty and elegant. We have an appraisal for The Gatsby Rolls supporting the asking price. But more importantly, we believe this Rolls is priced well. It is well known that such iconic classics that are indelibly fixed into our memories and culture, are sought after the world over. This explains the values for such items as the decrepit Bullet Mustang selling for $3.74 million in January 2020 and Paul Newmans Rolex selling for $17.8 million in October 2017. The Great Gatsby as a book has sold about 30 million copies and the number of people who have watch the classic movie is beyond estimation. This is an important fixture in Americas culture. This may be a once in a lifetime opportunity to acquire one of the most important Rolls-Royces in the world. The Gatsby Rolls is owned by The Chamberlain Foundation, a not-for-profit. Its purpose is to help educate future restorers of collector cars and watch makers. Certain tax advantages may be available to the purchaser of the motorcar. The Gatsby Rolls is available for viewing and inspection in Texas. Please call, text or email Harry Clark at 1.602.245.7200 or .

If you ever find yourself in southern California the Nethercutt is a must see. You need to call ahead for a reservation to see the salon and the music studio, but you can just drop in for the museum across the street. The Salon has the top stuff, but the museum has a lot of very cool cars too. https://www.nethercuttcollection.org/

I bought my copy of Kit Foster's book on Stanley from the museum website.

Looks like a 180. Is that a flag staff on the fender?