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Unfortunately for your mom, this engine isn't going to be worth very much. Way too big and heavy { not to mention too much trouble } to ship. You are left with hoping someone local needs one. The smaller, later teens - early 20's Overland's like this engine is for don't exactly set the collectors market on fire. Even a complete, unrestored car usually changes hands for pretty modest money. If someone local REALLY needs one, possibly as much as $750.00. But more often engines like this sell for a few hundred dollars at best ,if you can even find someone interested.

Here in the Pacific North West it's Blackberries. Left on their own they really take over. Probably not as fast as Kudzu from what I have heard, but very sharp thorns. This time of year is best. If you just cut off the vines they grow back quickly, you need to yank out the roots. Big root system. This time of year the ground is soft enough that with a lot of hard work you can pull out enough of the root the plant usually won't grow back. Either that or a small cat with a root ripper blade.

That would be a great archive. If you can at least group them with regards to Make, year and model and then post them in a publicly accessible place I am sure owners of those cars would be very interested { and many of us on here who may not own that particular car but are just generally interested in seeing under the skin } . Flickr is still free { for the most basic uses } and publicly accessible. You could create a basic entry here in the projects forum and then link to your Flicker account where the body of photos are stored. A bit time consuming for thousands of photos, but if you spread the project out over a few winters it won't be too tedious.

In some ways it is. These are popular cars, and I can certainly see how a Galaxy fan in the rust belt would see something like this. You can either work on a local , say Michigan example and spend that $5000.00 on getting one rear 1/4 panel repaired. And still have a vast amount of rust repair remaining before the car hits the road again. Or buy something like this Galaxy. A Texas car that has a good chance of being a far more viable candidate for restoration than any North Eastern car despite its rough , sun baked appearance. Not every Texas or Arizona car has rust free sheet metal, but a substantial number do. You just need to do a careful in person inspection before purchase. When you look at the cost of rust repair these days, a rust free or largely rust free body is worth its weight in gold.

The thing that I find amazing about these cars and the other cars in this market segment is how quickly they became an important part of peoples lives. Within a period of 4 or 5 years starting in about 1905 automobiles went from simple , small, and not really a practical device except for short , local trips to very large , very expensive , somewhat capable machines. Just think of all the cars marketed at this time { say about 1907 - about 1912 } in the $5,000.00 - $10,000.00 market class. Pierce Arrow, these Oldsmobile's, Locomobile , Sterns, Alco, Simplex , Stevens Duryea and many others. In most cases the number produced by any individual maker is not all that large for a given production year, but when you total up the number of cars sold by all makers combined { plus the high quality / high price range imports } it is actually a significant yearly number. All this in an industry barely beyond the stuttering , buy your fuel in gallon tins at the local drug store days. Even more amazing when you consider that most people rich or poor still most of the time used trains for transportation of any real distance. I wonder what these cars , with their towering price tags were generally used for ? Weekend commutes between the country estates where the wife and kids would live and the businessman head of the household would stay at a in town Apt. or Hotel suite during the business week. Formal events where the Wealthy were expected to arrive in the latest and greatest fashion. Remember it is mainly the touring bodied versions of these great cars that have survived, but when new a substantial number of cars in this price range had formal , closed bodies. It's just that very few of the formal body cars have survived. But WW1 era , big city junk yard photo's are full of 10 year or old or so formal body cars being salvaged. What an amazing era. Pity so few of the great cars of this era survived . WW1 - The Great Depression- WW2, and just general ravage of time and obsolescence, all of these events took their toll.

The Sept 2022 car was local to me for many years. A very well know car in my area. I would see it on the road from time to time. Belonged to a friend of a friend. Nutty prices on the 427's these days.

Actually the 427 cars are usually quite a bit more expensive than this GTA. 1966 Ford Fairlane 500 Hardtop R-Code 4-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - sold for $267,000 on March 15, 2024 (Lot #139,303) | Bring a Trailer1966 Ford Fairlane 500 Hardtop R-Code 4-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - sold for $296,000 on September 23, 2022 (Lot #85,328) | Bring a Trailer

2 million ? , waterfront on White Rock beach, you wish ! There's one for sale at the moment, a block up the hill from the beach . 3 Mill. and one further West on a bigger lot than most of the places along the beach proper. Waterfront , but high bank, 6 Mill.

Remarkable front fenders !

You guys are really depressing me. I used to think that I just had to win any old lottery to own an old car. Now it looks like a Powerball win is needed.

Yes there is. Just East of me by about 40 miles. Mostly a farming area, but suburban housing is starting to build up. I always wondered if lonesome Mary lives in Chilliwack.

Yes, the 4 speeds had staggered shocks. Take a close look at one one day and you will be amazed at how crudely the staggered shock mounts are installed into the trunk floor. It looks like something a high school kid did on his own. But I have seen several and they are all the same sort of workmanship. Just torch a opening in the trunk floor. Drop the extra piece in and weld -er up.

I was trying to get a frame shipped a month or so ago. Actually a frame plus a bunch of parts packaged up inside, but a LOT smaller { like 1/2 the footprint } and no heavier than one from one of these full sized Fords. A very small sports car chassis. New York State to Washington State. All the quotes were $3500 +. More than the frame and parts were going to cost. The shipping cost made the whole deal uneconomical by a good margin.

Too bad about the frame. For some reason these cars are often very rusty in the rear section of the frame. I am not sure if it is the design that is at fault or perhaps the type of steel that was used. Both Ford and GM have this problem , mid 1960's . But it seems more common on these full size Fords.

From what I have seen , the more desirable the car is the more demand for top quality parts. The limited production sports cars I am involved with seem to have strong enough owner demand on parts quality that the parts on the market are at least O.E.M. quality . Unfortunately in many cases they are priced out of my reach and i am forced to seek out other peoples cast offs and re - hab them myself. But for example the main 1960's - 1970's TVR parts outfit these days expands their range almost monthly. And from what I have seen use the same philosophy you are using, it has to be good enough to use on your own vehicle, not just be cheap and ready to ship. The other TVR outfit caters to vintage racers and their quality is so much better than what came from the factory in the 1960's. But at a price where I can't even afford a suspension A arm let alone anything major. The Ford , Chevy , Dodge market does seem to be very price sensitive. Been working on my 1970's F 250 lately. Parts are often remarkably cheap, but yes, chineesium. Still on a truck things are pretty overbuilt so not so much a factor as cheap, low quality parts on a sports car. My wife and I both drove Volvo 240's in the 1990's and early 2000's. I tried the aftermarket parts a few times as O.E.M. stuff from the dealer was pricy. But the quality just wasn't there and I quickly went back to genuine Volvo parts. Like you say, you get what you pay for.

I see things from a slightly different point of view regarding offshoring . There has always been a parallel market for cheaper " second rate " goods. Early post war era there was lots of low quality " made in { occupied } Japan " or " made in West Germany " goods on the market. Often almost as good as " made in U.S.A. " but generally quite a bit cheaper. As cost of living rose and income for many didn't quite keep up the market share of these second rate goods increased. Eventually the wholesalers and chain retailers started to source things in china. Profit margins rose, and owners / shareholders were ecstatic. I really don't think consumers demanded low quality goods. Just that their shrinking disposable income gave many no real choice. Share holder return over any other consideration just made things that much worse.

That seems like a very reasonable asking price for a high quality car like this. And what is actually quite a straight forward project . Hopefully the right person takes interest and returns this Cadillac to the road.

There was a McLaughlin in the late teens that was 99% a Oakland 6 . It was sold as a smaller, cheaper car once the 4 Cyl model was dropped by Buick. But that one was OHV.

My point exactly. That $15,000.00 U.S. price 1915 T becomes more like $25,000.00 + Canadian $ depending on how far away it is. Entry level 1950's cars start at around $5,000.00 Canadian. So the basic, entry level HCCA car is actually more like 5 times the price of a " starter " 1950's car. And that is not even thinking about the cost of the truck and trailer most brass T owners are eventually going to need if touring is part of the plan. Almost all 1950's cars can be used without a truck and trailer.

Broad strokes yes, but absolutely with merit. I think there is a much larger force at work driving the cheaper, cheaper trend. Certainly here in Canada , and probably to at least some degree in the U.S. the " middle class " { really the majority of old car owners by vehicle numbers at least } simply have a shrinking disposable income. People like myself started in the hobby decades ago, when it was actually reasonably affordable as long as you realized the " blue chip " cars were out of reach. But year by year costs to participate rose faster than disposable income. Over the last 40 years the gap has become substantial. Therefore the demand for cheaper and cheaper parts. Also even going back to the start of my involvement when there was still a lot of N.O.S. parts around for Ford at least, there was even then cheaper offshore parts offered by many Ford suppliers. Usually so-so quality and fit, but it kept things moving along. Often stated as made in Argentina back in the late 1960's / early 1970's. I expect the venders over time read the tea leaves and realized they could sell 10 so - so examples of a given part for every example of a first class , " Made in U.S.A. " reproduction part. And probably a similar profit regardless on which example was sold. Just part of running a successful business. It's either that or take up collecting clocks in many average income households. Likewise broad strokes in my outlook, but it just reflects my observations over 50 years of involvement.

Just my local perspective, boomers in my area are far more likely to be involved with street rods or some other variation of modified old car than stock condition old cars. Gen x ers and milennials tend toward JDM or North American market versions of popular JDM cars , plus 4WD trucks of all makes. Lots of exceptions however. Probably 20 % or more of local car hobby people don't fit the stereotypes and are involved with some other variation. Wayne, I guess my local market is as usual quite inflated. A decent 1914 or 15 T is usually triple the price at least of what a basic, driver condition early 1950's car sells for around here. A brass T only seems to hit the open market once every year or two in this area, and prices seem to stay high. Even black T's are rarely a bargain in these parts. And the alternative of bringing one in from the U.S. gets quite expensive by the time all the dust settles. In contrast there is always a good number of 1950's cars available and with some shopping around at quite low prices in some cases. Off brands , so - so body styles. Supply and demand

I agree with what you are saying to a point. Lots of HCCA cars that will run the wheels off a 1920 or older Buick 6 however. { bear in mind Buick offered a 6 1914 onward } My only point is that by keeping the cut off at 1915 the initial buy in is just too high for many. Any 1920 or older car is going to have a very limited performance envelope. The better 1914 - 1915 cars are just as fast as many / most 1920 cars. The one and two cyl. guys are in a league of their own.

I have been of the mind that the HCCA is doing itself no favors by sticking to the 1915 cut off. It's been my belief for years now they should officially extend up to 1920. Membership is shrinking. Other than T's and a few other quite low H.P. cars there are very few " affordable " HCCA cars available to younger people and those of us with only average means. Somewhere around 35-50 K is what I usually see for what I would call a reasonably ordinary , but decent road usable HCCA car. And that's just too much for many household budgets. Opening things up to 1920 would bring many affordable cars into HCCA use. I gave up about 5 years ago and let my membership lapse.

I don't think the Canadian production is significant to anyone other than a small segment of Canadian collectors. 99.9 % of the desirability and market place value is the fact it is a 1936 Roadster. Canadian or U.S. production is treated equally on a car like this. Probably not the rarest in actual numbers , but to most people the most desirable body style available in the early V8 years. 1932 - 1936. Any of the Ford roadsters from this production span have a huge following.