TexRiv_63 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) SOLD SOLD SOLDI have decided to sell my 1957 Lincoln Premiere 2-door hardtop coupe. I’ve had it about a year and some of you may have followed my cleanup / fixup efforts on the “Our Cars and Restorations” forum. It’s a great running and driving example of mid 50s over-the-top styling based on the Lincoln Futura concept car (Later the Batmobile!) with a low stance, enormous canted fins, and lots of chrome. It is a big car: 225” total length, 126” wheelbase, and a weight I would guess at close to 5000 lbs. Colorwise it is fairly conservative for the period with single color Sand tan paint and a three tone brown and tan interior. It has had one nice driver quality repaint in the original color and the interior has been redone in vinyl to match the original colors and style, I do not know how long ago this was done but all is in very nice shape. All chrome and stainless is there in good to very good condition with some typical diecast pitting. <o:p></o:p>ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT:Original 368 300 hp V-8, Turbo-Drive automatic, power steering, power brakes, power windows including vents, 6-way power seat, Travel-Tuner radio with dual speakers, power antenna, dual heaters, Guide automatic headlight dimmer, Multilube automatic front end lubricator, and rare factory trunk mounted air conditioning with Plexiglas ducts and roof mounted vents.<o:p></o:p>RECENT WORK DONE: New tinted / shaded windshield, brake wheel cylinders rebuilt, new front brake linings and seals, new front shock absorbers, rebuilt water pump and fuel pump, new hoses, belts, filters and tune-up. Paint has been touched up and buffed, engine compartment has been cleaned and partially detailed.<o:p></o:p>WORK NEEDED: Steering gear leaks from sector shaft, works but needs reseal. Front upper control arms need new bushings installed, included with car. A/C system, radio,and other equipment are complete but do not work and have been disconnected.<o:p></o:p>I’ve had a lot of fun driving, showing, and improving the appearance of this car, it is pretty rare and gets a lot of attention every time I take it out. With some additional TLC it has the potential to be a great tour vehicle but life and other projects will not allow me to take it to the next level so I want to pass it on to someone who can finish and enjoy it as it deserves. Please e-mail me for a detailed fact sheet plus additional photos and feel free to call me with any questions.<o:p></o:p>PRICE: $12,500<o:p></o:p>DON RUNDGREN, McKINNEY,TEXAS<o:p></o:p>Phone: 972-540-2429E-mail: derjr2@tx.rr.com<o:p></o:p> Edited November 29, 2012 by TexRiv_63 CAR SOLD (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Here are some interior photos: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 And here are some underhood photos: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 BTT - here are some additional exterior photos: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 BTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 DonI can't take it anymore! I know we are not supposed to comment but that car is gorgeous! I don't care if the color is sand. I've seen them in black and red and sand looks fantastic, kind of a car I could see Frank Sinatra in at the Sands circa 1957. Your price is spot on in my opinion. I am a big Lincoln fan. I own 3 books on Lincoln and wish I had room in my collection for, well, about 6 of them! About 3 years ago I tried to save a 57 Premiere 2 door hardtop from the crusher in Washington state which lead me the information from books, Collectible Automobile magazine articles and the clubs. Bottom line is Lincoln did a fantastic job on the 57's and sales proved it. Good luck on the sale, but I couldn't stand no one saying how beautiful your car is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 BJM, thanks for your comments. I was surprised how a little buffing, touchup. and detailing made this car pop. I've gotten a couple of nibbles but less response than I expected. The good side is that I'm now driving it more, showing it off with for sale signs in the windows. I missed a couple of local car shows due to rain but hope to take it out to one on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roysboystoys Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Great car, you can't come close to restoring one at that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted September 6, 2012 Author Share Posted September 6, 2012 BTT, still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kingoftheroad Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Like BJM said, it is a BEAUTIFUL car, can't believe your selling it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 BTT for another week. It has been nice to be driving this car more lately, showing it off. I took it to the Morning Maniacs weekly show last saturday and it was surrounded, it is an attention grabber. Unfortunately most of those folks already have hobby cars and weren't looking to buy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 These are great driving cars, too. Apparently the Lincoln engineers learned a thing or two in the Carrera-Panamericana road races a few years earlier. Drive this back-to-back with a comparable Cadillac and you'll be shocked by how light on its feet the Lincoln feels (well, "light" is a relative term with something like this). I'm a big fan of Lincolns and think they're vastly underrated compared to Cadillacs of the period. If this were a '57 Coupe DeVille, it would be three times the price. A screaming bargain for an arguably superior car. If you buy it, I promise you won't regret it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted September 23, 2012 Author Share Posted September 23, 2012 These are great driving cars, too. Apparently the Lincoln engineers learned a thing or two in the Carrera-Panamericana road races a few years earlier. Drive this back-to-back with a comparable Cadillac and you'll be shocked by how light on its feet the Lincoln feels (well, "light" is a relative term with something like this). I'm a big fan of Lincolns and think they're vastly underrated compared to Cadillacs of the period. If this were a '57 Coupe DeVille, it would be three times the price. A screaming bargain for an arguably superior car. If you buy it, I promise you won't regret it!BTT - Matt, thanks for the kind words. I do enjoy driving this car, it gets almost as much attention as my 32 Cadillac did as it is something you NEVER see on the road. I'm continuing to ask $14,000 because I think it is a fair price but I am always open to reasonable discussion or possible interesting trades for good driver cars. Here are a few more photos showing some details: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 BTT - I am motivated to sell and have reduced my asking price to $12,900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted October 19, 2012 Author Share Posted October 19, 2012 I just added a little more value to this car today, it had a patched up muffler on the passenger side which gave up the ghost so I had the whole passenger side exhaust system replaced. As a bonus, when the muffler shop pulled the old exhaust pipe they found the heat riser valve was rusted shut, my efforts to free it up before did not work. They eliminated the valve and now the car runs great, quiet, smooth, and the idle is better. I took it for a long ride back from the shop and that was money well spent. My price is still $12,900. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 BTT again - I must admit I'm surprised at the lack of sales interest in this car. I'm not talking about here on the forum, I've gotten some nice comments which I appreciate and a few e-mail inquiries though no one serious about buying. The surprising part is that I get major reaction when I drive the car and when I show it, there is always a crowd looking at it and when I stop for gas it always turns into a lengthy discussion with someone who sees it. Unfortunately, even though I have For Sale signs in the windows I haven't had any local interest in buying. I think my price is reasonable so I'm at a loss. I'm going to try Craigslist and possibly Auto Trader Classic although I don't like paying their prices for an ad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleach Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 If you would have been any closer and put your car up for sale a few months ago, I would have been more than eager to buy your car. I recall when you first bought it and reading about all the work you've put into it. It's a gorgeous car and it makes my Fairlane look rather boring. I don't regret buying my car and I really enjoy its simplicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgwarhawk Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 The Lincoln is absolutely beautiful. I think you are priced right. Try a larger audience with the use of craigs list like you are suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 I know of one person with a serious interest in buying your Lincoln. How about using eBay?Send them my way! I may eventually try Ebay but I would prefer to sell to someone who will actually come out, examine it, and drive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 37Packard Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) I'm going to try Craigslist and possibly Auto Trader Classic although I don't like paying their prices for an ad.Check out Oldride.com. The ads are only $10 and you can renew it every month for free if it doesn't sell. I've sold a couple of old cars through them. Good luck.... Edited November 6, 2012 by 37Packard (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Check out Oldride.com. The ads are only $10 and you can renew it every month for free if it doesn't sell. I've sold a couple of old cars through them. Good luck....Thanks, I'll take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 Price reduced to $12,500, will consider reasonable offers or interesting trades. I would really like to sell this car by the end of the year, someone could give themselves a great Christmas present! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 This car has been sold locally, thanks to all who commented or inquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PONTIAC1953 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 now that was money well spent and invested at the same time, congrats on the lincoln getting a new home. charles coker, 1953 pontiac tech advisor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I see this car is now for resale by a dealer, with an asking price $10,000 above your last asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 This car sure gets around! I sold it to a local dealer who took it to the Mecum Kansas City auction where it sold for a little more but not enough to have made him much profit. Unless the new dealer has done quite a bit of work on it it is not worth that asking price. Let me know what dealer it is with a PM, I'd like to see what happens to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalef62 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BJM Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Don offered a very nice hobby car to the community for several months, nay year +. No one stepped up. For me, as it is with Don and some of us, I am just too diverse to focus on collecting 2-3 nice cars. I have 8 now and always seem to be buying and trading/selling. So I don't begrudge a non sell. It is too bad this forum does not result in more "transfers" of these fairly priced cars. As to the dealer - they have typically gotten to where they are by what we call flipping. And I see absolutely no problem with that aspect of the hobby. In reality, we seldom know exactly what the dealer sells the car for - but to get a reasonable profit, they need to jack up the price so the eventual sale lies somewhere in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I believe this forum works quite well for selling reasonably priced cars. I would have loved to have bought the Lincoln. I thought it was a steal at that price. I tried to get my brother-in-law to buy, but that didn't happen. If it had been one year older, I know someone who is specifically looking for a 1956 hardtop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 I just learned this car is now on Ebay, it has made full circle back to where I originally bought it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas Old Car Guy Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) I just learned this car is now on Ebay, it has made full circle back to where I originally bought it!Don:Here's the ebay listing for the Sioux Falls, South Dakota dealer -Lincoln : Other in Lincoln | eBay MotorsHis description never mentions that it is a "rust-free" Texas car; guess if he bought it in KC at the Mecum Auction he may not be aware of its history. In fact he barely has a description at all and is letting the multiple pictures "do the talking." It's currently bid $10,300 with a BUY IT NOW price of $23,800.UPDATE: The seller ended the listing on ebay this morning at 9:35 am CST. Wonder if it sold locally or he took a "best offer"? The listing was a BUY IT NOW auction and didn't have the best offer option though.Fred Edited January 16, 2013 by Texas Old Car Guy (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 The dealer relisted the car with a $21,500 buy it now, still no best offer and one bid of $2500. I'll be watching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Texas Old Car Guy Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Don:Dropping his price to $21,500 might not do the trick - wonder if the seller noticed the newly listed '57 Lincoln on ebay with a BUY IT NOW price of $13,500?Here's a link to the auction:Lincoln : Other 2 door | eBayFred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I always greatly prefer to see antique cars for sale by long-term owners,and buy from long-term owners. Profiteers aren't what the hobby was built on.The dealer may be upstanding, but does he care more about the car or about the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 The dealer may be upstanding, but does he care more about the car or about the money?Easy answer on that one, business is business. I did notice that the one selling my old car has now listed some - but not all - of the car's deficiencies. He also prominently describes the "Leather Seats" which are most definitely vinyl. I do think sometimes consignment dealers pass along incorrect or misleading information from the owner and of course the biggest issue is what is not mentioned at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_S_in_Penna Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Fellow hobbyists: Do you think that it's really abuyer's market out there now?I kept my eyes open for a year before recentlyadding another car to the garage. Though therecertainly are exceptions, I think prices realized onEbay for the typical #2 or #3 conditioncollector car are quite reasonable. There seem tobe an awful lot of them for sale.I'm not saying that ASKING prices are necessarilyreasonable. Sometimes it takes a long time forpeople's asking prices to meet reality. Dealers, forexample, may have a car advertised on their websiteoptimistically for $15,000, but after many, many tries on Ebay they finally give in and it sells for $7500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl B. Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 See what's on ebay....BLincoln : Other leather in Lincoln | eBay Motors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRiv_63 Posted January 23, 2013 Author Share Posted January 23, 2013 The Ebay auction just closed, top bid was $7,170 and reserve was not met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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