hidden_hunter Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Olde Dude2 said: My starter drive does not look much different than todays drive.. My curiosity is piq'd by the stamping "BIJUR Pat. applied 1914". I thought Cadillac had the lock on that product when they said their model 1916 was first self starter. Cadillac had is standard in 1912 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson33 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Hi Guys, I’m new to this forum and to the veteran car community, but would like to share some photos of what I believe to be a 1912 DELCO ignition system - self starter… all the research I’ve done seems to confirm this .. would welcome anyone to verify it is indeed what I think it to be or correct me as to what it could be if it is not. kind regards, Mathew 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LI_BENTLEY Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Cadillac had the first electric starter. White was the first 6 cylinder electrically started and lighted car in 1912 just after the 4 cylinder Cadillac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Mead Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Does anyone know of an actual, documented occurrence of a properly working acetylene starter harming an engine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorer32 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I do not but I do know enough about acetylene to be very wary of one of those starters. There is a reason acetylene welding tanks are full of porous concrete into which the acetylene is infused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 11/17/2022 at 7:05 PM, Hudson33 said: I’m new to this forum and to the veteran car community, but would like to share some photos of what I believe to be a 1912 DELCO ignition system - self starter… all the research I’ve done seems to confirm this .. would welcome anyone to verify it is indeed what I think it to be or correct me as to what it could be if it is not. It looks like the early cadillac system (but on the wrong side of a car for a 12) - what car is this on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Buick went to electric starters for cars in 1914 and trucks in 1916. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson33 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 6 hours ago, hidden_hunter said: It looks like the early cadillac system (but on the wrong side of a car for a 12) - what car is this on? It is on a 1913 Hudson 37 tourer engine in a 1912 Hudson 33 chassis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif in Calif Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 On 4/27/2022 at 5:09 AM, 8E45E said: I would rephrase that to "What is the last vehicle to have a starting crank with a hole to insert it". I do know Studebaker trucks offered starting cranks into the '50's on the 2R series for export markets, and there is a hole for the crank at the base of the grille. And several English cars also had provisions for a starter crank into the 1950's as well. The same was true for Lada into the early 1980's. Craig My '59 Triumph TR3 had a hole for the crank and a crank in the tool kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intimeold Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) I had a 1963 Renault Dauphine; that had a hand crank for the engine. It also doubled as the wheel lug wrench. That was part of the vehicle tool kit. Dauphines were produced up until about 1967. I do remember we always used the hand crank; when doing a tune-up; which included an engine valve adjustment. The hand crank was really the best tool to turn the engine over to the proper place to adjust whatever valve you were adjusting. intimeold Edited November 19, 2022 by intimeold (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hidden_hunter Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 9 hours ago, intimeold said: I do remember we always used the hand crank; when doing a tune-up; which included an engine valve adjustment. The hand crank was really the best tool to turn the engine over to the proper place to adjust whatever valve you were adjusting. That’s all it’s used for by the twenties for Cadillac, they tell you not to hand crank the car in the manual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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