Ken C. Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Was the fuel pump on a '64 Riviera painted engine color from the factory or was it unpainted (like Chevy & Pontiac?) Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Hi Ken, Definitely painted Tom Mooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken C. Posted December 22, 2021 Author Share Posted December 22, 2021 Thank you Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Mine was not except for the edges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken C. Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, telriv said: Mine was not except for the edges. Thanks! I've heard form a chapter member that any paint on the fuel pump is overspray and not intentional. That seems to match your observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telriv Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 That's what I told Paul. Tom T. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Factory #36 was the engine factory. The engine factory had a quality control manual which is very similar to the quality control manual used in the car assembly plants. In the engine quality controls manuals, there is a reference for the quality control person to use called a "standard paint mask use" which breaks down the components or areas which require masking. Regarding fuel pumps, the masking device used is described as a "cup". I have seen, on very original cars, as well as original fuel pump take-offs which I scoop up because they are rebuildable, is what I would describe as mild overspray to full on coating. It probably depended on who was doing the paint work, whether it was a Monday or Friday, and proper use of the "cup", if at all. Attached is a pic of the masking guideline from an engine quality control manual for the `68 engines. The fuel pumps were definitely mounted to the engines before the paint operation and received varying degrees of paint exposure. From what I`ve witnessed on the cars and pumps it seems to me they were not that particular about paint exposure regarding the fuel pumps as they might have been where the hoses mounted to the engine, distributor hole, etc. BTW...the water pumps received a full coating as well as the engine except where the hoses mount. I have some factory pics from the engine plant, I`ll see if I can dig them out and post. Tom Mooney 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegart Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Are those 430s and 401s on the same line? Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Wow! That is an amazing picture Tom of your shop! Knew you had lots spare stuff but never dreamed to that extent . 🤣. Do you have more color pictures of the assembly lines? Interested in your response to Kevin above . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Lol...wish I had a shop that looked like this! The pic is definitely `66 as the 401 has the lifting hook on the bellhousing, only year for that feature. I`m not an expert on the smaller engines but I believe the 2 engines in the foreground are `66 Wildcat 375 340 cu in engines. Notice the 401 has AC and power steering brackets installed because critical fasteners are used to install those brackets. Also notice the bin of dipsticks in the right foreground and on the bench behind them? ...are those boxes of cast aluminum valve covers?!? I have quite a few pictures of the engine plant and have collected various materials including engine plant newsletters and even a stand-up cardboard cutout of Mr Wildcat! Some day I`ll dig them out and post some pics. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegart Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Tom After looking at the picture again I see the intake is not a spread bore so 340 would make sense. The red color and oil filter on front cover is what caught my eye the first time. Thank you Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 hours ago, kegart said: Tom After looking at the picture again I see the intake is not a spread bore so 340 would make sense. The red color and oil filter on front cover is what caught my eye the first time. Thank you Kevin Yes, noticed that also 👍 Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Wasn't the 425 red in '66? Did only the 401 stay blue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Somewhere, someone has posted a Dealer Service Bulletin with the years and colors of engines. I think that only the Riviera and maybe the Wildcat had the red 425 engines. I do not know if the 425 was available in the Electra. If so, I would imagine that it was painted Buick Green. The nailhead in the assembly line picture has the cast-in lifting loop on the rear of the block. I also do not know if both 401s and 425s in '66 had that lifting loop. But, I'm betting that someone knows all of the above permutations and combinations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, EmTee said: Wasn't the 425 red in '66? Did only the 401 stay blue? Yes, in full size cars Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasander Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 401 was red in 66 Skylark GS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Has anyone ever run across a '66 Skylark with the Q-jet from the Riviera or the 11+:1 compression. I cannot put my finger on my engine production code list currently, but there were a couple of optional engines that were available that had more than the 325 hp for the regular 401. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasander Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) This L 78 MS At Flint car show this summer. Edited December 25, 2021 by Chasander Removed picture (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1965rivgs Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/24/2021 at 5:23 AM, Chasander said: 401 was red in 66 Skylark GS Yes, 425 was red in Riviera, Wildcat and Electra 401 was Buick Green in full size cars 401 was red in A body small cars Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RivNut Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Tom, So no 425 for the Electra in 1966? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965rivgs Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 12/26/2021 at 12:02 AM, RivNut said: Tom, So no 425 for the Electra in 1966? On 12/24/2021 at 5:23 AM, Chasander said: 401 was red in 66 Skylark GS Yes, 425 was red in Riviera, Wildcat and Electra 401 was Buick Green in full size cars 401 was red in A body small cars Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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