Period images to relieve some of the stress

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Might be titled "Our dog loves to ride in our new Maxwell!"

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Santa Claus and Cleopatra arriving in a new 1934 Studebaker convertible!

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On 8/14/2023 at 9:23 AM, nzcarnerd said:

Some photos from a facebook page taken in Western Australia in 1915. The cars are Talbots.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This appears to be the WA (Western Australia) Premier John "Gone-a Million Jack" Scaddan's visit to Esperance in March 1915. The two Government owned Talbot's; registered P207 and the newer P719 were transported by train to Norseman and driven down to Esperance in a push to get approval for a railway line to the port town from the goldfields that never eventuated. The cars look like they must have been loaded onto a ship for their return to Perth (first photo). Both of these cars were used as official vehicles until at least 1919. A fantastic series of photos.

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16 hours ago, MetroPetro said:

1934 Plymouth after a very hard hit.

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Secretaries of the U.S. & Minister of Interior, Stuart of Alberta Canada

 

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Century of Progress display 1934 

 

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Behind the scenes shots we rarely see

 

Pouring tractor blocks

 

 

Cleaning and chipping 

 

 

 

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Kaibab Forest in Northern Arizona 

(Flagstaff AZ area)

 

Most don't associate winter coats and large pine trees with our beautiful state of Arizona but the ecosystems throughout the state are actually quite diverse.

 

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Detroit street scene 1926 and awaiting arrival of Ferry Boat

 

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Auto parking - Fair of the Iron Horse

 

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On 8/25/2023 at 10:15 AM, twin6 said:

Got tires?

 

Simple enough photo, yet so much to see and consider... 

The signs are always an interest, but my focus went from the make-shift front shroud to the fact the ole man is clean which tells me he was the reason for the trip into town.

 

Father and son?

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For @Walt G

 

Ole 16 was discussed in the recent PB thread and I couldn't help but recall this photo.

The look on the Peters face says it all doesn't it?
 

 

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Touching up a few:

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Whangarei, New Zealand, 15 April 1915, the first meeting of the North Auckland Automobile Association.  An article and photo from a 1976 newspaper. By 1915 American cars were beginning to dominate New Zealand's car market but there was always a mix of British and European models as well. I am still working on identifying the British model in the centre of the photo.

 

I think the car behind the motorcycles might be a Cadillac.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, 58L-Y8 said:

 

 

I believe that the lack of a splash apron below the radiator and the slight offset between the hood and cowl makes this a 1915 EC6 model. The EC6 and SD4 Studebakers still had the cowl gasoline tank, but the filler was moved to the dash panel were it remained through the later 1915/'16 model ED6 and SF4 series 16 cars. Their year model designations were pretty screwed up through those years. The "true" 1915s were produced from about August of 1914 through about May of 1915. The so-called 1916 model (officially renamed the series 16!) was only produced from about June of 1915 through most of December of 1915, whereas the series 17 began production late in December of 1915. No so-called 1916 Studebakers were actually manufactured during calendar year 1916. All models built most of that year (1916) were called series 17s, with series 18s being built at the end of calendar 1916.

It was the series 17s that first had the splash apron below the radiator, and the gasoline tank moved to the rear of the chassis and fed to the carburetor by a Stewart vacuum tank.

Calendar year 1915 was split between two distinctly different models series, each with a production run of considerably less than twelve months.

 

Small wonder that the HCCA fought for nearly thirty years over where to draw the line on Studebakers. (Current rules are fine, or as fine as they really can be.)

 

That is a great photo of a wonderful car!

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1 hour ago, wayne sheldon said:

 

I believe that the lack of a splash apron below the radiator and the slight offset between the hood and cowl makes this a 1915 EC6 model. The EC6 and SD4 Studebakers still had the cowl gasoline tank, but the filler was moved to the dash panel were it remained through the later 1915/'16 model ED6 and SF4 series 16 cars. Their year model designations were pretty screwed up through those years. The "true" 1915s were produced from about August of 1914 through about May of 1915. The so-called 1916 model (officially renamed the series 16!) was only produced from about June of 1915 through most of December of 1915, whereas the series 17 began production late in December of 1915. No so-called 1916 Studebakers were actually manufactured during calendar year 1916. All models built most of that year (1916) were called series 17s, with series 18s being built at the end of calendar 1916.

It was the series 17s that first had the splash apron below the radiator, and the gasoline tank moved to the rear of the chassis and fed to the carburetor by a Stewart vacuum tank.

Calendar year 1915 was split between two distinctly different models series, each with a production run of considerably less than twelve months.

 

Small wonder that the HCCA fought for nearly thirty years over where to draw the line on Studebakers. (Current rules are fine, or as fine as they really can be.)

 

That is a great photo of a wonderful car!

I think Studebaker continued to confuse buyers, and future historians, until about 1932(?) when yearly model changes began. My 1929 model Dictator GE cabriolet was built about August 1928 and arrived in New Zealand on 15 December 1928.

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nz, Most United States automobile manufacturers brought out the next years model somewhere around September or October most years. In the beginning, part of that was trying to beat the winter months and make sales on the idea of having the new model before springtime. Due to the seasons and the condition of most roads here during winter, many people put their cars to bed for the duration. The idea was that when springtime arrived, one could awaken the car and be seen from the start in a shiny new model! A few manufacturers, including Studebaker, had a habit of sometimes bringing models out even earlier. Studebaker for many years made running changes during production rather than waiting for the model year change to bring them out all at once.

 

In addition to that, 1915 was a difficult year with the war starting in Europe. Although the USA was not immediately in the war, automobile manufacturers were being hit with material shortages. They also feared the USA may enter the war sooner rather than later, and that all automobile production might be stopped. For that reason, they were trying to make as many sales as they could before the unknown happened. So a lot of manufacturers including Reo and Hudson also brought out 1916 models extra early.

As it turned out, domestic production did continue, however, there were some cutbacks on production imposed. And most automobile manufacturers did quite well with wartime production before and during the USA's official involvement. At least until the postwar recession hit about 1921, which killed most small producers of automobiles.

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Wonder if the Frisch's Roadhouse still serves Jacob Ruppert's Knickerbocker Beer?

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19 hours ago, wayne sheldon said:

nz, Most United States automobile manufacturers brought out the next years model somewhere around September or October most years. In the beginning, part of that was trying to beat the winter months and make sales on the idea of having the new model before springtime. Due to the seasons and the condition of most roads here during winter, many people put their cars to bed for the duration. The idea was that when springtime arrived, one could awaken the car and be seen from the start in a shiny new model! A few manufacturers, including Studebaker, had a habit of sometimes bringing models out even earlier. Studebaker for many years made running changes during production rather than waiting for the model year change to bring them out all at once.

 

In addition to that, 1915 was a difficult year with the war starting in Europe. Although the USA was not immediately in the war, automobile manufacturers were being hit with material shortages. They also feared the USA may enter the war sooner rather than later, and that all automobile production might be stopped. For that reason, they were trying to make as many sales as they could before the unknown happened. So a lot of manufacturers including Reo and Hudson also brought out 1916 models extra early.

As it turned out, domestic production did continue, however, there were some cutbacks on production imposed. And most automobile manufacturers did quite well with wartime production before and during the USA's official involvement. At least until the postwar recession hit about 1921, which killed most small producers of automobiles.

The Standard Catalog tells me that Buick in the later teens introduced its new models in August and Dodge in July, I believe to catch the summer agricultural shows.

 

My 1965 Pontiac is serial number 821 (body number 143) off the California line and was built the first week of September 1964. Block and heads cast late July/early August. Just when the model was actually introduced I don't know. I have no record of its original sale date. At least in that era there is no doubt about the model year of the car as it is stamped/marked everywhere.

 

With my 1929 Studebaker the factory decreed that the third series GE models were to be 'regarded' as 1929 models even though they were all built in 1928.

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