jukejunkie1015 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, 30DodgePanel said: L&E ? The Los Angeles partnership of Lundelius & Eccleston began in 1922, and in 1924, they introduced their first vehicle, a Franklin-based touring car. But in between times, they based their L&E cars on other brands, probably hoping to spark those manufacturers' interest in L&E's eight years of production. There could have been more, but who knows? The illustrated 1928 L&E model was a fine-looking car, showing styling influences of Auburn, Cadillac and some other quality marques. It was obviously in the luxury class and would probably have sold for $3,500 or more, if production had commenced. L&E had big plans for a huge factory in Long Beach (close to Los Angeles), but that project failed to get off the ground. Edited May 20, 2023 by jukejunkie1015 photo added (see edit history) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Early observatory personal and equipment transportation Studebaker hauled the 100" aluminizing tank for the mirror. And of course a Dodge Brothers roadster hauled some of the communication poles.... Edited May 20, 2023 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Famous shot that I'm sure has been posted before. Two things I'm never going to have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 8 hours ago, alsancle said: Surprisingly not a Pierce Arrow. The location is Auckland, New Zealand, and the date from the registration plate is 1926-27. That looks to be a teens Hupmobile on the hook. W S Miller was the local agent for Chandler, among other makes, as well as being on the executive of the local Motor Trades Association. He was involved in several record runs between Auckland and Wellington in the early/mid 1920s. I found an old newspaper article detailing the Auckland Wellington stock car record. It was not long after this that the authorities clamped down on such activities. And a promotional article for the Chandler from the New Zealand Herlad 4 March 1924. adding the last line - " step forward in the progress of motor traffic in New Zealand. Advt" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 L & E . I have an original sales catalog for one here someplace and the somewhat fuzzy image of the convertible is from that and was on a Society of Automotive Historians Journal page some years ago . Probably where that image came from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Bloom Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 4 hours ago, alsancle said: Famous shot that I'm sure has been posted before. Two things I'm never going to have. Never say never! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 minute ago, John Bloom said: Never say never! John, I have a better shot at the Zeppelin than the Special Roadster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Custom body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John Bloom Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I have a plan, you lease square footage of surface area for advertising to generate some cash to buy that Zeppelin. sign me up for a 6“ x 6“ piece. i’ve also dreamed that one morning over that first cup of coffee, my wife of 37 years casually tells me that she has a trust fund she’s never mentioned to me before. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Just now, George K said: Murphy Clear Vision - you should post this in the "Good Looking 4 door sedan" thread. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, John Bloom said: I have a plan, you lease square footage of surface area for advertising to generate some cash to buy that Zeppelin. sign me up for a 6“ x 6“ piece. i’ve also dreamed that one morning over that first cup of coffee, my wife of 37 years casually tells me that she has a trust fund she’s never mentioned to me before. Closest I came to a Special Roadster was when my Uncle Ted offered to trade this car for my dad's Cab A plus 1500 bucks back in 1966. My dad fumbled the ball. Ted traded it back to Ed Jurist for a Model SJ Duesenberg. Edited May 21, 2023 by alsancle (see edit history) 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, alsancle said: Compare the car in the center to this Stanley Steamer. Same body? It looks like the same coachbuilder. Maybe it's just the angle of this photo but I'm not sure the Stanley body is original to the car. The lines on the black and white car follow through to the hood whereas the Stanley hood and body look mismatched. The wheel arch cutout on the rear of the Stanley looks unnecessary given the distance to the rear guard. I wonder if they extended and heightened an existing body to fit the longer wheelbase? I wonder if either of these cars is on coachbuild.com? Edited May 21, 2023 by John E. Guitar (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 If you were wondering why most cars at wood insert in the sedan roofs until the late 30s. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, John E. Guitar said: It looks like the same coachbuilder. Maybe it's just the angle of this photo but I'm not sure the Stanley body is original to the car. The lines on the black and white car follow through to the hood whereas the Stanley hood and body look mismatched. The wheel arch cutout on the rear of the Stanley looks unnecessary given the distance to the rear guard. I wonder if they extended and heightened an existing body to fit the longer wheelbase? I wonder if either of these cars is on coachbuild.com? I have a fairly astute friend who thinks that the the body on the Stanley started as the body on the car in the salon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I'm on a big Cord kick lately. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, alsancle said: I have a fairly astute friend who thinks that the the body on the Stanley started as the body on the car in the salon. That makes sense. Do you what make the original car is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, John E. Guitar said: That makes sense. Do you what make the original car is? It is possible the chassis is Brewster also. The picture is not a high enough resolution to really tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 The coupe is something unique to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, alsancle said: It is possible the chassis is Brewster also. The picture is not a high enough resolution to really tell. Ok, this 1921 Brewster Model 91 looks similar. It looks like a soft ride with those springs. https://www.conceptcarz.com/z18941/brewster-model-91.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bloom Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, alsancle said: Closest I came to a Special Roadster was when my Uncle Ted offered to trade this car for my dad's Cab A plus 1500 bucks back in 1966. My dad fumbled the ball. Ted traded it back to Ed Jurist for a Model SJ Duesenberg. I love those kind of stories. People always want to somehow explain it to us simpletons that “that was a lot of money back then “ With no appreciation for the scale and difference. I have a odd fascination with how the costs have changed over time in the hobby. I wonder when the first Duesenberg had a sale that broke $100,000 mark? To roll in that car, you need that sweater of your uncle Ted’s. I’m sure your dad asked for it as part of the deal and your uncle Ted probably said “that is a dealbreaker”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, John E. Guitar said: Ok, this 1921 Brewster Model 91 looks similar. It looks like a soft ride with those springs. https://www.conceptcarz.com/z18941/brewster-model-91.aspx Soft ride at 25 mph. They were designed for NY City streets. Would hit 40 if you dropped it out of an airplane. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 hour ago, John Bloom said: I love those kind of stories. People always want to somehow explain it to us simpletons that “that was a lot of money back then “ With no appreciation for the scale and difference. I have a odd fascination with how the costs have changed over time in the hobby. I wonder when the first Duesenberg had a sale that broke $100,000 mark? To roll in that car, you need that sweater of your uncle Ted’s. I’m sure your dad asked for it as part of the deal and your uncle Ted probably said “that is a dealbreaker”. Good question. Here’s what I found regarding the 100k. Threshold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bloom Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, George K said: Good question. Here’s what I found regarding the 100k. Threshold Thanks George, I don't want to hijack the thread since it is flat out awesome. Maybe a thread can be started that talks about some of these thresholds of when sales broke certain milestones. Your input of early 1970's seems reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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34LaSalleClubSedan Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 10 hours ago, alsancle said: LaSalle 2 hours ago, alsancle said: I'm on a big Cord kick lately. C.B.Demille......Spelling? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Elsbury Motors, Heathcote, Victoria, Australia, 1928. Looks to be a 1928 Chevrolet National sedan and a 1928 Buick Master Six Sport Touring, Model 28-55-X of which only 132 were built. The Chevrolet will most likely be one of the 675 bodied by Holdens in Australia, due to strict import regulations, but the Buick was fully imported. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) We've seen several pics of Mayfield Car Co but I don't ever recall this odd ball. Edited May 21, 2023 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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30DodgePanel Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) Numerous cars are seen junked along Riverside Street, which ran between West Carson Street and the Monongahela River. The photo was taken during the Carson Street widening construction project, and the view is looking west/northwest. Edited May 21, 2023 by 30DodgePanel (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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