ArticiferTom Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Type Chrysler Historical in search box above . Other threads have there .com site listed . I'm to dumb to link it . 33 Ply site The First Decades , has info on paint and Fiat/ Chrylers site . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 Found the site but found nowhere on that site to request anything even remotely historical in nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Is this where you tried? This is the original information site.... Chrysler Historical Collection 12501 Chrysler Freeway CIMS 41-011-21 Detroit, MI 48288 Fax – 313-252-2928 www.chryslerheritage.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Well that just linked me to the site I already found and I see nothing about anything historical Edited November 23, 2019 by Brooklyn Beer (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) The site has been offline for quite a while. May have been just prior to FIAT taking over. I believe they stopped participating for a while and may still not be providing information. The original girl, Danielle was great in proving me with "build cards" for my 1931 Dodges. Edited November 23, 2019 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArticiferTom Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) Newest site . Scroll to bottom . All request by mail or fax only . https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/footer/Pages/contacts.aspx Edited November 24, 2019 by ArticiferTom email to mail (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ArticiferTom said: Newest site . Scroll to bottom . All request by email or fax only . https://www.fcagroup.com/en-US/footer/Pages/contacts.aspx Here you go....looks like the same address I gave earlier.... Edited November 23, 2019 by keiser31 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArticiferTom Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Looks like not charging 25 bucks any more . Even thought they never cashed the checks anyways . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 The Chrysler Heritage link is dead. I will have to request by snail mail 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehandleman Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32plywood Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 the 32 pa thrift also just had three gauges in the dash not 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 OK, I am not a fan of this yellow wire from the coil. What color should this wire be and what gauge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32plywood Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 cloth covered like the rest of the car --- not sure of size or hash mark but cloth covered for sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Brooklyn Beer said: OK, I am not a fan of this yellow wire from the coil. What color should this wire be and what gauge? The 1933 PD wiring diagram shows the wire from the coil to the distributor to be "small black braid". I have a spool of black cloth covered #14 gauge wire that I use. I don't know if the '32 is the same or different but that seems to be the type of thing that they maintained some consistency on over multiple model years. Edited November 25, 2019 by ply33 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 Great. I have some of that here as well from the Buick repairs. Concerning lights. Head lights and tail lights. What are the bulb numbers? I would especially like to put an LED out back and need the bulb number. Head light bulb? Just getting things in order so I can get right to work when the car gets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Brooklyn Beer said: Great. I have some of that here as well from the Buick repairs. Concerning lights. Head lights and tail lights. What are the bulb numbers? I would especially like to put an LED out back and need the bulb number. Head light bulb? Just getting things in order so I can get right to work when the car gets here. For PA: https://www.ply33.com/Models/PA/specs.html For PB: https://www.ply33.com/Models/PB/specs.html p.s. For headlights see https://www.ply33.com/Repair/lights Since I wrote that up it looks like some LED options have become available and I am tempted to get some to try. Classic and Vintage Bulbs has some that I think will fit and have 2500 lumens light output (vs the 600 lumens of the quartz-halogen I am currently using): http://www.classicandvintagebulbs.com/page6.html I haven't even ordered them yet so I can't say how well they will focus, etc. but they are enticing. Edited November 25, 2019 by ply33 (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 These the ones your talking about ? 16 LED Ba15 Bayonet 15 mm 6-12 voltThese LEDs are suitable for pre war type lamps from the Late 20's to 50's. High and low beam and single. 2500 Lumens 600 ma at 12v +ve or -ve earth and will work from 6v to 12v. Single LEDs are not suitable on resistance dip systems. LEDs give a natural white light and produce a softer beam pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Brooklyn Beer said: These the ones you're talking about ? Yes. I have some doubts about how good the beam pattern will be as the original incandescent bulbs are basically a point source but the LED emitters cover a fairly wide area. So they may not work well (project light in the correct places). But the low power consumption and high light output would mean the original generator could still be used and your total light output would be about that of a modern car. Thus my earlier comment that they seem enticing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Light output much less than 2500 lumens at 6 V? That is for 12 V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 There has been discussion about these type LEDs on the Franklin club boards as well and some people have said they have not see a giant increase in light over regular bulbs but they are very happy the generator is working a whole lot less. I am guessing with good reflectors they would be better. But stopping the TAX on old wiring surely will save on repairs down the road. I turn on the Trippe Lights and the amp gauge lets me know a good replacement bulb that would be more amp friendly would not hurt. All 4 of these big, bad beauties running is quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 hours ago, Spinneyhill said: Light output much less than 2500 lumens at 6 V? That is for 12 V. That is a question that I'd ask before buying. But it is my understanding that the basic high output LED chips have about a 3 volt drop. To make them work properly they need to be properly voltage and current controlled. So that hidden somewhere in the assembly is some circuitry that limits the voltage/current to the LEDs to the required 3v and maybe deals with polarity inversion (to allow a lamp to be used on both positive and negative ground vehicles). So the devil is in the details of that control circuitry and the description on that website says almost nothing about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 Interesting. Would they drop the 12 volt to 3 volt. Is the Lumens then based off of 3 volt output? That is a good question worth asking them. I think I will. But just in case I ordered a spare set of regular bulbs as spares. I did not find but one bulb seller that had any in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Brooklyn Beer said: Interesting. Would they drop the 12 volt to 3 volt. Is the Lumens then based off of 3 volt output? That is a good question worth asking them. I think I will. But just in case I ordered a spare set of regular bulbs as spares. I did not find but one bulb seller that had any in stock. Regular spares are a good idea. I've got several #1000 incandescent and one 25 watt quartz-halogen headlight bulbs in my spares. And I carry some of those spares in a small box in my car's glovebox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 what number is the 25 watt quartz halogen? And do they pull more amps then the 1000's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Brooklyn Beer said: what number is the 25 watt quartz halogen? And do they pull more amps then the 1000's? Per my page at https://www.ply33.com/Repair/lights listed above, I picked the 25 watt quartz-halogen because they draw just about the same power as the #1000s. At that time they also had a 35 watt quartz-halogen bulb but I thought that would be stressing the headlight switch and generator too much so I went with the lower wattage bulb. They still list a quartz-halogen bulb but I don't see the wattage rating on it. Their description is: Ba15d Bayonet 15 mm 6, 8 & 12 voltThe Ba15 bulb will replace the majority of headlamp bulbs used from the mid 1920's to late 40's for American and English vehicles. Replaces # 168, 169, 171, 1000, 2086, 1124, 1190 etc Halogens produce a brighter light and precise beam .pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 I am kind of wondering what this bulb would do in white light. They have a very good and LONG write up about the bulb https://www.ledlight.com/g18-s25-1158-ba15d-2_6-watt-6-volt-ac-or-dc-non-polarity.aspx Actual Product may vary from picture shown. One product per package unless otherwise stated. 1158 LED Bulb BA15D Base 6 Volt 2.6 Watt G18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wldavis Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I thought our cars used offset pins in the base ? Am I wrong ? This bulb has straight pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Beer Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 Look at the base of the bulb to accommodate that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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