kreed Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Does anyone have any experience with this group ? Their website sounds too good to be true. Reviews that I can find say they are legit . I remain very skeptical . Any thoughts/ advice / experience would be appreciated . https://emotorsparktraders.wordpress.com/about-us/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first64riv Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Personally, I would not do business with a company that has a WordPress domain name. I would imagine a company that is providing a service such as this would use a domain that they purchase and use a pay hosting service. Just my opinion. Chris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 Here's their website https://emotorspark.com/consignment-centralstore/index.html looks very fishy at first glance and almost too good to be true - free shipping, no money down, keep the merchandise 10 days and if you don't like it, send it back at their expense ?..... never heard them until I stumbled across crashing Riviera stuff KReed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZRIV Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) Never heard of it but after a 10 minute scan of website it looks essentially a 3rd party listing service that charges close to 20% after its all said and done. But they take pics and do the listing, shipping, etc which would be great for some folks. Now the key is seller has to drop off the item at one of their locations which are VERY limited. Says no hidden fees but their fee structure seems to have variables that make it hard to figure out. As much as I complain about Paypal at least it is very clear what the fees are. Wonder what their shipping fees would be? When you list on ebay most will figure cost of shipping into price or charge actual shipping cost based on location. If they inflate shipping cost to buyer to pay for labor to pack and ship that could mean they won't sell item for as much money. Then again if a seller doesn't want the hassle of listing, packing and shipping they may not care to pay someone. So if an items doesn't sell I wonder what you end up paying? It won't be free that's for sure. Seems like it should be OK for a buyer. I just see too many potential issues for a seller dropping your item off at a place where you have no idea who is handling it. Edited December 20, 2018 by JZRIV (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 https://emotorspark.com/consignment-centralstore/search-stock/HG557862.html check out this listing -$5600 ?.. Too good to be true .... Is this the actual car?. Got response that they want "down payment with your CC .... Very, very suspicious .. Staying away . KReed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gungeey Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Nobody takes better care of my money business than me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) This is a scam! You will notice that the adress in the address bar is not their web address......the word traders has been left out and the address is not a secure website. I went to their true website and they stated that many people are scamming folks with websites that are totally fictitious using their name to scam people. Their website is not emotorspark.com, it is emotorsparktraders.com. Of course, anybody with half a brain cell knows you can't buy a beautiful 71 creampuff Riviera like that for 5600 dollars! Edited December 21, 2018 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. D. Bedea Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 i hope they are a lagit company. i am waiting on a car to arrive that i got through this company. They have been in touch with me the whole time and kept me updated as to where we were in the process. The website i used is just www.emotorspark.com the worldpress has never been in the domain. I read many forums and researched many scam lists before deciding to proceed with the transaction. Every forum said it was real and never once did they popup on any scam lists. They are even listed with the Texas licensing division as a used car dealer licensed to sell in the state of Texas. I am not saying for sure they are real i will know more for sure once my car arrives (or doesn't arrive). If it don't i will for sure let you know before i make a trip to Boston to get my down payment back. I will let you guys know either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 Thanks for the update . I will be very interested in hearing how things go for you . Please keep us posted . KReed ROA 14549 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66chargerrt Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/19/2018 at 11:09 PM, kreed said: Does anyone have any experience with this group ? Their website sounds too good to be true. Reviews that I can find say they are legit . I remain very skeptical . Any thoughts/ advice / experience would be appreciated . https://emotorsparktraders.wordpress.com/about-us/ Hello, I too am awaiting some feedback. It seems a bit mystical on how they do transactions. You mentioned cc, well they told me I had to use gift cards to make.my deposit. Any further updates on your end? On 12/19/2018 at 11:09 PM, kreed said: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66chargerrt Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/21/2018 at 12:31 PM, D. D. Bedea said: i hope they are a lagit company. i am waiting on a car to arrive that i got through this company. They have been in touch with me the whole time and kept me updated as to where we were in the process. The website i used is just www.emotorspark.com the worldpress has never been in the domain. I read many forums and researched many scam lists before deciding to proceed with the transaction. Every forum said it was real and never once did they popup on any scam lists. They are even listed with the Texas licensing division as a used car dealer licensed to sell in the state of Texas. I am not saying for sure they are real i will know more for sure once my car arrives (or doesn't arrive). If it don't i will for sure let you know before i make a trip to Boston to get my down payment back. I will let you guys know either way. om/about-us/ Hello, I too am awaiting some feedback. It seems a bit mystical on how they do transactions. They told me I had to use gift cards to make.my deposit. Any further updates on your end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. D. Bedea Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 As far as I can tell it is a scam!!! Car was scheduled to arrive on the 23rd I contacted them on the 22nd to verify and they changed the date to the 26th. When I try to contact them today via email it says address does not exist and when I try to go to website I get some message that looks to be Arabic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66chargerrt Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Oh wow, that looks like some Russian language. Sorry that happened to you. The 66 Charger on their site was on another site in a different state. Same exact photos and description and they asked me to pay a $2k deposit with GIFT CARDS (?!?!?) What??!! Anyway I hope you get some resolve to the situation. Ill keep searching through a LEGIT site. Thanks for your feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. D. Bedea Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 My wife and I both spent several days looking into them. Reading blogs about the company and searching all the scam list sites we could find and found nothing negative about them so I decided to try it bad decision. I will boat fraud warnings on every site I can find and report to the fbi fraud department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. D. Bedea Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 My wife just found info about the site and the guy running it. It turns out he has a McAllister ok address which is only three hours away from me. Someone is getting a visit from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) Wow these guys are real pros..........everything on the internet regarding this sham company has disappeared, including their website. It's almost as if Google is in on it......amazing. I'm sure they are busy creating a new name, website and fake testimonials to sell more nice cars for ten cents on the dollar under a new name. All the posts at various forums saying they are legit have vanished. These were obviously phony posts. Lot's of luck finding them in Oklahoma.........this is a Russian operation.This whole thing reminds me of the movie "The Sting". Basically, they created this company website with phony cars for sale, then created phony testimonials for people to click on when they were investigating if they were legit. Then they ran the scam for a couple of weeks reeling in all the fish they could catch, then folded up their tent and moved on before anybody got wise and posted warnings about them on the internet. They will pop up again with a new name and a new website and with lots of testimonials. Edited December 27, 2018 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 I found a website that states that emotorspark.com was created on 11/28/18 in Russia. It appears that they ran the scam for almost 4 weeks, then shut it down when it was time to deliver the cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66chargerrt Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 That's really unfortunate for the people that sent money. I've purchased many cars out of state and this transaction just never felt right from the beginning so I'm glad I didn't send any money. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. D. Bedea Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) This is what I have found so far. If anyone finds out more info please e mail me at bedeadd@hotmail.com. I would love to find this person and see him face to face. Even if it means flying to Russia I have no problem with that either. It is funny how they kept the website from popping up on any of the scam lists. I searched tons of scam alert websites and lists never once showed up anywhere Edited December 27, 2018 by D. D. Bedea (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Before you hop into your car and drive to Mcalester Oklahoma, I think you should be aware that according to searches I have done, nobody by that name lives in McAlester, and the address of 1427 Philli Lane is a non existent address. It appears that the Ruskies have been hard at work sucking money out of car enthusiasts bank accounts. (And we thought hacking the election was bad!) I am glad to know about scam advisor.com....... That is the way to check out websites for being a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. D. Bedea Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 They did not show up on scam advisor until after the website was shut down. They are good. They better hope I never locate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. D. Bedea Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 BE AWARE!!!!!!! there is another one out there guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seafoam65 Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) The real lesson here is if it sounds too good to be true..........it is always a scam. The scammers always list pictures of a gorgeous no.1 condition car and list it for the sales price of a number 4 condition car. Edited December 27, 2018 by Seafoam65 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsgun Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Believe it or not, a lot of these scams originate from russia, and are tied to various russian mobs, which in turn are tied to government officials. There's rarely just one person behind this, it's usually several and it's ran like a business. They like to use the UK as a launch base too. Their primary business is computer virus scams. I sold my mustang on craigslist. After about the first month of listing it, I started getting emails (using CL's email system) just asking if the car was still available. I responded to one, and started getting a lot of spam. Figured out if you reply, you're put on a list of known active email addresses, and that list is sold to "advertisers". Lots of virus emails wanting you to check on the status of shipments too. Even had one in very broken english wanting the VIN number of the car. Gotta keep in mind, we in the US live in a bubble, where people are expected to be honest. The rest of the world, people are expected to be scamming you until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68RIVGS Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Unfortunately there are scammers everywhere in today's electronic world, that's how they survive ! CL, Kijiji, eBay, and many other trusted sites are vast watering holes for these unscrupulous scammers. Never commit to any dealings with them - if it can't be done "in person", with the goods available for inspection, and with good old cash ! It's a shame, but the days of trusting unknown individuals are long gone. Welcome to the real world ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivdrivn Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 That said, I have successfully purchased 3 Rivieras and many antiques via eBay with no problems at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66chargerrt Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Beware!! ESpeed Deals is the new scam, but it's the same players with the same emails and the same car🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 Article in Hemmings just mentioned arrest of 11 people in a scam -wonder if it was the emotors group mentioned above - hope they got them and they can spend some time in jail talking to Manafort . KReed ROA 14549 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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