Fordlandia Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I have attached a picture of an original photo in my collection of automobilia. I believe the vehicle is an early Horch, perhaps produced around 1930. However, I have not been able to identify the exact model and year. It appears to be a "economy" version, not nearly as luxurious and adorned with chrome as most of the Horch vehicles I have seen online. I have also included a copy of the back of the photograph. It is dated 1948, looks like the car was well cared for if indeed the photo was taken that year. I do not have a translation of the writing. Any information would be appreciated. Bill Grand Rapids, MI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Looks to be a Horch 1931-1932 Mod.420 3 litres. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Never saw a Horch that small. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lump Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 To me it looks quite like an Adler Trumpf Jr. I had a 1933 version myself some years back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Leif Holmberg said: Looks to be a Horch 1931-1932 Mod.420 3 litres. I don't think so. The radiator surround is not chromed. The rear axle looks to be further back. It looks shorter making the side mount sit higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, lump said: To me it looks quite like an Adler Trumpf Jr. I had a 1933 version myself some years back. No images come up with side mounts or external running boards nor that flat, vertical back? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordlandia Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) Thank you Leif Holmberg and keiser31! I am now certain that the pictured car is likely a Horch 1931-1932 Mod.420 3 litres as Leif stated. However, there are some interesting differences between the car shown in Leif's photo (car "A") and the one in mine (car "B"). I "flipped" the car A image so that it would be in the same direction as car B. Both are shown below. 1. Although it might have been the result of the type of camera lens used, car B certainly appears to be shorter car A. 2. Note also that car B has an unchromed / painted radiator cowl (is that the right word?) while car B is chromed. That could just be a matter of model year, I suppose. 3. Car B shows a slight "upward curve" to the door / driver's window top, while car A is straight. 4. Also the upper door trim on car A extends beyond the rear door opening. On car B, the chrome trim stops short of the opening. 5. The lower back corner of car A is a sharp 90 degree (or so) angle, while car B has a rounde/ curver contour. Overall, car B looks more like an "economy" model while car A looks fancier (and longer?). Edited December 11, 2018 by Fordlandia additional info (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gillingham Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) I would have said it's a Stoewer, from about 1933? The R140 even has the same distinctive moulding on the upper door. Edited December 11, 2018 by Craig Gillingham (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Also, Leif's car has a side light on the mudguard or fender or? while Fordlandia's does not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Friederich Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 hours ago, Craig Gillingham said: I would have said it's a Stoewer, from about 1933? I think it's a Stoewer R 140 too. Definately smaller than a Horch, also notice the painted radiator in the original photo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Holmberg Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 The door molding looks right on Stoewer too,as well as the higher monted head lights and rounded radiator schrud. Leif in Sweden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordlandia Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 Thank you to all who have responded to this posting. Unless someone objects, I'd say Craig Gillingham of Melbourne, Australia is the winner. The photo of the red Stoewer he posted provides enough matching details to conclude that it is a Stoewer R 140 (likely 1933) as shown at this link: https://www.stoewer-cars.com/r140-1932-1934.html?r=?r What does Mr. Gillingham win? He has a choice: an all expenses paid trip to (1) have lunch with President Trump at his famous Mar-a-Lago resort, or (2) take a two week vacation in Hawaii with his choice of one of the 50 "Most Beautiful Actresses of 2018" as listed here: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls033349931/ Thanks again to everyone responding. Bill Waite Grand Rapids, Michigan, USA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Carl Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hi Bill, and welcome to AACA forums ! Continue to hang out with us, and you will see that Craig Gillingham has an eye for the eclectic and obscure which I find astounding. This is true for very rare cars, and also components for same. I don't know how he does it. Craig : do you have a photographic, or near photographic memory ? - Carl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Gillingham Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Thank you both for the kind words. I'm more inclined to go for prize (2), --unfortunately, I'll have to decline, as none of those actresses are in the 50+ category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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