38Buick 80C Posted February 25, 2023 Author Share Posted February 25, 2023 Frame goes out next week to be straightened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 Frame has been out and is back... No pictures yet. Apperently it's looks great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 I got motivated by the frame being done to do a small item i have been putting off. I color sanded the valve cover got the two runs out and a bit of the orange peel. I'm happy with the result. I didn't want to go too far with it. Need to snap a couple photos. I will hit the push rod cover tomorrow and snap a couple. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, 38Buick 80C said: I didn't want to go too far with it. Maybe just two coats of clear... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) Went to look at the frame, looks better. They measured it and it's good but a couple things are but wonky looking to me. But gonna move forward. It was still in the trailer so we agreed on a plan and it was in my garage a few hours later Edited March 7, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 Tonight I had a few spare minutes be fire kids soccer practice so started removing items. And the rear axle is free, I will move it out of the way tomorrow and continue disassembly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 Another short progress session Trying to get the rear axle back to the shop by Monday at the latest. 1. I need it out of the way (wife wants he collectable back in the garage ASAP) and 2. They are gonna replace all the bearings and generally refresh it. The parts from the previous post have already made their way to the powder coating place and today's batch will go in the AM. Tomorrow hopefully will finish the brake disassembly and maybe, just maybe I will get to start on the front suspension (really want to flip the chassis around to be nose out for that though. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 Another hours worth of disassembly. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) I had a helper to help me swap directions in the garage. I need to finish disassembly of the rear brakes so I can take the axel off the jack stands. Then I can use the stands for the front of the frame. I'd really like to be ready to paint this thing by end of the weekend. Aside from the disassembly which I should knock out tomorrow night since I will have more than an hour, I need to clean off some remaining undercoating and a few spots of 85 years of accumulated road grime. Edited March 11, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 Some goodies arrived.... We will see how I did as none of this was actually for a '38... But same engine and close years that SHOULD be the same... We will soon find out... If not I have some stainless lines to be sold off soon... 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) Progress Edited March 11, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 Chassis has everything unbolted 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 Backing plates off. That's a wrap for tonight I don't feel like messing with king pins and suspension knuckles. I did start to wire brush off some left over under coating... That's gonna be slow going 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 hours ago, 38Buick 80C said: Some goodies arrived.... We will see how I did as none of this was actually for a '38... But same engine and close years that SHOULD be the same... We will soon find out... If not I have some stainless lines to be sold off soon... 😁 Guess it would help if I posted a picture of the goodies... My Eastwood Chassis black paint arrived today too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 6:29 PM, 38Buick 80C said: I'd really like to be ready to paint this thing by end of the weekend. Well that was over eager... gonna be a bit longer with the undercoat removal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 12 hours ago, 38Buick 80C said: I don't feel like messing with king pins and suspension knuckles. I'll be paying attention to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, EmTee said: I'll be paying attention to that! OK so first thing you need to know. https://www.rareparts.com/ and have one of these for when you see the prices 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 13 hours ago, 38Buick 80C said: OK so first thing you need to know. Hmmmm, looks like they are out-of stock at Rare Parts. OTOH, Cars appears to have the small series king pin set that should work for my Century... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 17, 2023 Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Making slow progress on removing the excess undercoating. Combo of scraping it, wire brushing it, and propane torching it. Here's a couple spots I got pretty far along with. Edited March 17, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 Made some progress last night and today @EmTeet this is for you. So I worked on disassembly of the front suspension. First is to knock out the pin holding the king pin in place, look for the end that is not a perfect circle and drive from that side. I had to destroy the cap to knock the king pin out. Same process with the lower knuckle These bushings need to be removed and the new ones pressed in to place. For all bushings (King pins or knuckles) once they are pressed into place they need to be honed by a machine shop to the correct dimension. This is critical, learned this with the 80C. So next stop for my suspension is the machine shop to have this done. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 I struggled with the other side of the suspension. Neither set pin would come out. Not would the one year one series bearing things on the lower control arms. I decided this wasn't big enough So I went to Lowe's and got the proper socket. That with the impact gun, made quick work of them. Unfortunately the sledge I bought still didn't free the set pins. I'm going to let the machine shop press them out. I then pulled the wheel seals from the front drums. Along with the bearings. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 Last up was wire brushing the frame and then blowing out the media from the sand blasting. It was a sizable amount. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 A pile for the machine shop And one for the powder coating place Time for steaks 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Good progress! I appreciate the kingpin pictures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) I will need a source for some new dust caps and possibly a lock pin. Anybody have one where i can buy only those on a onesie / twosie basis? The king pins I have came with dust caps but the knuckles did not. thoughts on whether these work? https://www.mcmaster.com/dust-caps/expansion-plugs-for-castings/ Edited March 19, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonMicheletti Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Those Mc Master caps look exactly like what was in mine. I'd think they would be fine 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 25, 2023 Author Share Posted March 25, 2023 (edited) Frame painting today...well etching primer to start First step was make a paint booth of sorts I had some etching primer left from the 80C....that is how I started...that was a mistake... Just didn't spray well and ran out of it too... Made a run to the paint store and got some new etching primer and wow what difference... So easy to spray. Here is the end result. The yellow is the first primer. Tomorrow afternoon after soccer I hope to spray it black. Using an Eastwood 2K ceramic satin black. Edited March 25, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 it wasn't supposed to, but its raining... no painting so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 you know what that is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 26, 2023 Author Share Posted March 26, 2023 Ok for reference...one quart equals 1 coat. Will place another order and do a second quote next weekend. Not bad just want a second coat on it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 What kind of paint did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/25/2023 at 1:16 PM, 38Buick 80C said: Tomorrow afternoon after soccer I hope to spray it black. Using an Eastwood 2K ceramic satin black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgreen Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Phew, I relate to the point you made about motivation a couple posts back. As much fun as the work can be once started, some days it is just hard to start. I noticed traces of a green color on your backing plates. If it helps, the brake backing plates that I took from an unrestored low mileage car had a green tint to them and Skip Boyer shared a couple photos of some NOS backing plates that he had, confirming the coating is zinc chromate. That is not an EPA friendly coating. Most people paint the backing plates chassis black to replicate thousands of miles of grease and road grime. But if you want to go a bit more on the detailed route, I compared the zinc chromate samples to the Sherwin Williams color chart and found a close, but not exact match with the color SW 6177, Softened Green. I’ve seen this color on older machinery, possibly military and aircraft. The coating is very thin and will scratch off if rubbed to hard with a putty knife or with steel wool. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, kgreen said: Most people paint the backing plates chassis black to replicate thousands of miles of grease and road grime. I would fall under the most people category 🤣 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old-tank Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 hours ago, kgreen said: the coating is zinc chromate. That is not an EPA friendly coating. No danger to you or the environment and the plating company knows how to handle. Same plating on grade 8 fasteners. Painting will serve you well since the car will probably lead a sheltered life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 3 hours ago, old-tank said: No danger to you or the environment and the plating company knows how to handle. Same plating on grade 8 fasteners. Painting will serve you well since the car will probably lead a sheltered life. i had them powder coated satin black 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Very pleased with how my second coat turned out. Spent a bunch of time with handheld LED lights to make sure I had good coverage throughout the entire chassis. Final coat I put on very light to get a very flat satin coat. Monday I should have everything back from the powder coating place with the exception of the items that went to the machine shop to have the bushings installed. I talked to 5 Points and I should have my knee action shocks back in about 2 to 3 weeks. Hopefully that will line up with machine shop work being powder coated and then I can really go to town on the front suspension. Edited April 1, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 1, 2023 Author Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Guess I should mention why I flattened it out. I was having trouble getting an even finish. I had hot spots of shinier areas. With this thin flatter coat it is very even now. Thus I am happy. With the body back on and on the show field it will look very nice. Edited April 1, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38Buick 80C Posted April 7, 2023 Author Share Posted April 7, 2023 (edited) The boys' soccer practice was cancelled so I couldn't help but bolt something on. Got these upper shock mounts on And the sway bar with brake line brackets. That was the as good as it got. Went to put on the upper control on bumpers... Wrong ones... what I got from Bob's must be for the small series. Thus couldn't put on the lower control arm bummers either. Steele has the correct ones Went to put the rear panhard bar on... No bushings....Steele has them too So placing a Steele order tomorrow Then for giggles I got the rear axle bumpers out. Though they were packaged as a pair... I ended up with two rights... Correct mounted in the bracket And incorrect Note the u-bolt won't be able to go through. Steele is great so I will just run over there and they will make it right, but just a ignominious start to bolting stuff back on. Nothing that can't be easily solved thankfully. Probably the universe saying I wasn't meant to really start tonight...😂 Edited April 7, 2023 by 38Buick 80C (see edit history) 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dship Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 There must be something to be learned from this: when soccer practice gets cancelled, don't touch the car! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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