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This young man is a neighbor I taught to drive a Model T when all he had was a learner's permit - not yet old enough for a license.

The HCCA roster lists only pre-1916 cars. It shows a Werner Rase in Columbus, Ohio, having three 1914 Grants, and a Dennis Long in Beavercreek, Ohio, as having one. Either of these people might have a later Grant that wouldn't appear in the roster. Gil Fitzhugh

'36 Ford

VictoriaLynn, that's a beautiful car in beautiful settings. Where in Oregon? I have a stepson and his family in Ashland, but since I'm in NJ I don't get out there very often.

Like many of you, I have no fall color pictures this year because we have no fall color. Here are a couple of pictures from prior years - not great color, but decent pictures. And the Stanley picture was taken at a Cars and Croissants gathering on New Year's Day 2016 temperature 28, and definitely no fall color!

Last car on the right in the last picture looks like 1 1906 or 7 REO 2-cylinder.

I believe the Purple Petrel was on an HCCA tour this year, after not being seen for a long time.

That's a surprising percentage of AACA award winners!

Car-Nation cyclecar, about 1914

The car in front of the horse is a 1913 Ford. No idea about the other car. Gil Fitzhugh the Elder

Zach, these critters don't stay for sale very long. There was a partially restored one on the HCCA website that sold in 2 days. There's a Brass Buicks Yahoo site that has a classified section. I'd look at these daily. I suspect most 2-cylinder Buicks change hands by word of mouth. That's how I sold mine - a guy I knew thought I might sell, and he called me up. Try to find a Horseless Carriage Club group near you, and put feelers out. If you're serious and live anywhere near Orange, VA, go visit the 1-and 2-cylinder tour there next month. There are always some F Buicks on those tours. One might be for sale. In any event, you might be able to snag a ride in one, which will either cement your desire for one or convince you an early car isn't for you. They're a lot more work than a Model A Ford! I'll be at the Orange tour with a 1-cylinder Cadillac and a 10-hp Stanley steam car. Look me up if you come! Gil

With that open door, it would have to be a model F. The G was a roadster with no doors and no back seat; the F was a a touring car with no front doors, but a back seat with doors. Otherwise, the same car. Big, powerful 2-cylinder cars with engines mounted underneath and chain drive. One cylinder pointed forward, the other aft; the crankshaft was transverse, and the engine was hand cranked from the right side. Also, I believe this was a 1908-09-10 model. The 1906-07 radiators were different. Gil Fitzhugh the Elder

One of Billy Durant's early acquisitions for GM was the Elmore, a 2-stroke car. Oldsmobile briefly built a 2-stroke, but that was before GM gobbled it up. Gil Fitzhugh the Elder

The HCCA has a High Wheel Motor Buggy Register. The contact person is Brady Mann, three oh nine 692-7240 or bradymann "at" du-mont "dot" com. There is also a register for Sears highwheelers and one for Schachts, many of which were highwheelers. Contact me if you want more information. While highwheelers are rarely toured in the U.S., there is an active highwheeler gang in Australia, and those guys DO tour. If you donate the car to a museum, all you get is the taxes you'd have paid if you hadn't made the donation. If you sell the car, you get the whole purchase price. Example: Suppose you and a museum (and, if you're audited, the IRS) agree that your car is worth $25,000, and your marginal tax bracket is 30%. If you give the museum the car, you can claim a deduction of $25,000 and save $7,500 in taxes (30% of $25,000) and the car will gather dust. If you sell the car outright at the bargain price of $15,000 to someone who wants to drive it, you'll get $15,000 and the car will be used and loved. Your choice. Gil Fitzhugh the Elder

I'm betting 1907 Tourist. Standard Catalog, third edition, page 1475.

I wonder whether they would have accepted my Mopar Buick. It was built in 1912, when Walter Chrysler was still president of the Buick division of GM.

Where are you located? I use Jeff Keysor in Bouckville, NY. He took over Steve Bono's shop. Gil Fitzhugh the Elder, Morristown, NJ

Hi, Jan! It was good to see you, and your Hudson and Hupmobile, on the Ellsworth tour. The Coker website lists an 895x135 Excelsior beaded edge (clincher) tire for $523. Rim size is 625 mm, which is awfully close to 25 inches. Tire diameter is 33 inches. You might call Coker and see whether this will fit. Gil Fitzhugh the Elder

Sounds like a good way to get older cars out.

I don't know the answer. But I suggest you post this to the discussion forum on the Model T Ford Club of America website. It's much more active than this one, and you'll get lots of responses. ( Some of them might even be helpful!)

Looks like a good mix of cars and a pretty area for touring. But what's a Square Car Tour?

I like pre-war cars, but the war at issue is WWI. I have a '14 Ford, a '12 Buick Model 35 touring, an '11 Stanley 10-horsepower toy tonneau, and an '07 Cadillac single-cylinder Model K. I drive them every chance I get - for lunch, to recycling, for a haircut, to yoga, - - - . And, of course, on HCCA weekend and week-long tours. Trailer queens? Hell, yes - I trailer to distant tours. I'm going to the New London - New Brighton tour in Minnesota in September with with the Cadillac or the Stanley, and I'm sure not going to drive it there from New Jersey! A year ago, on New Year's Day, the roads were clear of salt, the temperature was 28F, and there was a Cars and Coffee. I drove the Stanley. I wasn't sure which was going to freeze first, me or the water in the tank. Just to keep this on topic, here's a picture of me, my grandson, and my son with the Buick on last year's Hershey show field, in less benign (but warmer!) weather. Over the following two days, I drove the Buick on the Hershey Hangover, the routes for which I had written.

You don't have to go back as far as the '70s. Didn't the AACA raffle off a brand new car just a few years ago, that had some major problem (like seizing up on the highway)?

What a beautiful place to tour! Although, in spite of all the high-performance cars, my favorite is 007's Deux Chevaux with the bullet holes. Thank you for sharing these pictures.

Yes, indeed, there will be a brass car tour - the 16th BBC. (That name started out Brass in Bucks County. Then we moved, and it became Brass in Berks County. We've moved again; now it's just Beautiful Brass Cars!) There will be a pre-WWII flea market and pre-1916 car show at the Pennsylvania Railroad Museum in Strasburg (NOT Stroudsburg!) on Sunday, May 21. There will then be four days of touring, Monday 5/22 through Thursday 5/25, leaving from the Clarion Inn, our host hotel. This will be a good place to see the cars being cranked up for each day's tour; you can take pictures and ask questions. The tour is limited to 85 cars, and I believe it's full, so unless the weather is really lousy, there should be plenty to see. Last year's tour was a gem. I wrote it up for the HCCA website. You can read all about it here: http://boards.hcca.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=951&sid=c0e785d212f1e6d72cc3675d6f02e7a0 Come on out and see what the fun's all about! Gil Fitzhugh the Elder, Morristown, NJ