Walt G

Great collection Lamarr thanks for the view! LOVE IT. Walt

Hard to help you - need the height of the lamp, the width of the slot that the mounting area slides into as there were a wide variety offered by DIetz and other lamp manufacturers. Is the lamp 8 inches tall, 9 inches tall? 7 1.2 inches tall what is the size of the door? 5 x 5, 4 3/4 by 4 3/4 ?

Or color of anything! In college 50 years ago in a painting class I took there were fluorescent lights - I would bring oil paintings in done in natural light and the colors under fluorescent light would totally change the view of the colors in the painting! SO the paintings were then viewed outside or in a hall that had natural light. Had a car paint supplier here on long island that would mix lacquer to the sample you had - NEVER did so unless there was natural light. I gave talks on that aspect of color and light to a number of people many times in the 40+ years I taught art at all levels. Neat car.................

Staged photo or not that is one of the best period photos I have ever seen! Love it.

Trunk or no trunk? I think it depends upon the body style. On a 2 door conv coupe, coupe, roadster, victoria coupe with a rear deck area similar to a coupe I can agree that the trunk does not let the lines /style of the car flow . BUT if you have a touring car , especially a 7 passenger or a big sedan ( 4 door 6 window ) I think a trunk works well in the overall appearance. The trunk color will affect the appearance - light color on the car , then appropriate color of the trunk or cover on the trunk to work as an entire visual unit. In regard to white wall tires and pilot ray lights. I like white wall tires on darker colored cars , black walls on most European cars and especially cars with some racing /sporty heritage. I think a single pilot ray light looks well depending upon if the car has dual trumpet horns, stone guard etc. more is not better. Dual pilot rays I do not care for. Chrome plated wheels are something I do not favor . Decades ago I had conversations with Rudy Creteur of Rollson/Rollston company about the above. Most interesting to hear the comments of someone who was "there" , "then" . With my art background and car interests of the pre war era I have had some great conversations with designers of that era in person when they were alive . the same with engineers, draftsman etc who worked for the Franklin Company , all this taking place in the early 1970s in a relaxed atmosphere in a low key conversation.

Me too! But no complaints from me , I was very fortunate at Hershey last October to see a collection of figural motor meters along with a few mascots come my way to look at and be available for purchase. A friend is clearing out slowly the collections of a hoarder who we both knew 400 miles from where I reside. All of what I bought I had never known existed and was amassed in the 1940s to early 1960s. it has taken months since then to get all of them cleaned by soaking in Simple Green. the die cast ( zinc) figural motor meters are all free of age cracking. This is the most I have ever bought at Hershey in all the decades I have attended. Do any of them fit any cars I own - NO. All became " useless presents " from me to me for Christmas .

I will when I have time, major projects in progress and am not reading the forums much any longer.

Dave, no need to be sorry, just a clarification , What you contribute is terrific. Most everyone looking here can not realize how long it takes to locate the photo or image, scan and save then take the time to post and comment. It is all taken for granted . It is why I ceased to do so recently after a lot of negative opinions/comments.

Jack I tried your email and it doesn't connect tells me to correct it but I can't. I copied and pasted it but to no avail.

I bought my first car( - it was an old car a 1931 Plymouth sedan) when I was 13 in 1963 and took delivery when I was 14 in 1964 at that time I joined AACA and also the Plymouth 4 cylinder Owners Club. In that era the collectors I got to know who had been collecting for some years all referred to the 1942 and earlier era as "pre war" , this included Austin Clark who also thought and mentioned that time span /cut off. I didn't hear anyone discuss or dispute or wonder why this was stated as it was, it is what everyone talked about then with no question all agreed . I agree that Zephyr has stated it the best as to why the terms were and are used.

the Franklin with Cannon Ball Baker is a 1929 series 13 model 135 or 137. Baker is leaning against the spare tire . that is an accessory OVALITE under the left front headlamp. I looked at the photo again, car does not have the regular issue headlamps made by Ryan ( Ryanlite) but possibly has Twilight headlamps that were first used in 1930 and continued on into 1932 for use ( most had 12 inch diameter headlamp lens) . E.G. "Cannonball " Baker did cross country speed trips , held numerous records for that in the 1929-31 era non stop driving - he had a large bag of peanuts in their shells next to him on the front seat (he used as food) he also in the early days of the Franklin Club attended one of their annual "treks" in Syracuse, NY I believe in the 1950s. More useless information.

If you can post a photo of what you need perhaps some of us may have this. Even if the image is taken from a sales catalog or magazine ad. Also give length. the more information you can provide the more likely that someone will contact you to let you know they may have these.

I completely agree with what West stated.

Yes, it did indeed bring back memories - I read the title and thought immediately - "Austin had one of those I rode in probably at least twice" and sure enough it was the same vehicle. Neat machine and not huge but very tall!

For my own needs/situation I echo what TAKerry says totally. Computers are great and I too admire what Gary can do and mentions here, but I taught art for over 40 years and it was all hands on operation - pencils, rulers templates at times. It just is the way it is "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" Well, this old dog likes the ability of a computer for gathering together the ability to type, scan photos, etc for the stories I write and then submit for publication - sure is a lot easier then decades ago having to make a negative of a period photo, have the film developed and then a print made. ( I have a lot of 4 x 5 negatives of period images that Austin Clark would make and then be able to be used for reproduction of photographs that could give incredible detail ) SO I will let those of you who tap the buttons do that while this dinosaur is content with what I can do as I need to.

I can not tell you what manufacturer made it but yes it was used as a accessory base ( aftermarket) for a motor meter. The hinge was so you could swing the motor meter out of the way to add water and not have to unscrew then rescrew the motor meter back again. Less time and effort. I purchased a collection of assorted motor meter caps ( dog bone, and figural die cast zinc) at Hershey that were collected by a hoarder over a period of 40+ years and have spent the months since October cleaning them . Some amazing stuff - have never seen anything like them since I got into the old car hobby in 1964. Most of us when we think motor meters think of the Boyce lollipop shaped ones in assorted sizes. There were so much more available for sale as accessories in the 1915-34 era but most being cast in zinc now may be in poor shape due to the deterioration of the base metal.

Happy Valentines Day to all the all the ladies who look at the forums and especially to all those who work at the AACA Headquarters who put up with all of us the whole year !! this card was printed in Germany.

This should tell all that AACA is doing the old car interest "right". We all owe the club staff, officers and everyone connected with that annual event a huge THANK YOU.

Larry has the right idea. I bought a wood fair ground motorcycle ( merry go round in US speak) Made in the late 1940s/early 1950s and when I checked the cost to have it shipped it was over $400. I bubble wrapped it and a friend delivered it to Heathrow airport for me and the cost for PreArraged take on baggage was $40 plus a tip to the baggage guy at the curb to wrestle it into the plane. It now sits restored in the bay window at the front of my living room . Not something one can lift and move around well until i added a base with wheels. It is about 3/4 the size of a real motorcycle.

THANK YOU, well stated. An author, journalist, writer etc. should provide a clear picture with words and information that is concise, accurate, and a "good read". My own point of view is that it should also include the attitude, atmosphere of that particular era - gives a reader more perspective. Anything at 100 mph in the era pre 1920 was incredible and also somewhat to be feared as how did it stop going 100 mph? History can just be so much more interesting ( and thus remembered) if it is presented in such a way to make the reader have a "wow" moment or perhaps smile because they now know something they didn't before. It comes down to sharing - do it well and we all can benefit

Depends upon how well they clean/polish up and what rust has gone beneath the original plating.

Yet that information that is incorrect will be looked at from now on AS CORRECT and myth will then become fact................. Even with the faster way to check facts(?) huge mistakes are made by confident know it all types. SAD

that top edge is REALLY steep , almost so you can't stand up at all. the track has been maintained by the Brooklands Society who have never ending admiration for what took place there historically and it is a vast area to keep as you see it. Much of that concrete track is still there from 1907!!!

alsfarms if you google Brooklands museum, society etc you will get all the information you need as well as images. Yes, the track was opened in 1907. Track is located in Surrey.

that was my reaction as well, had to tear up tires quickly. You have to be there to really appreciate that. Just the fact it was a banked race track not to long after the turn of the century is incredible and that it has survived at all for as long as it did. It doesn't take much imagination to look at that track and hear the roar of the cars as they lap the concrete.