novaman

Yes, it is only done at AACA National Meets.

Ex98th was simply letting you know the best way of handling things. At an AACA National Meet, if you register the car in a judged class, and don't specify at that time it will be entered as a "do not judge", and then you stick a do not judge sign on it, you create headaches for the judging team. Now the team captain has to ge through the deal with Adminatrastion explaining why he doesn't have the cars score sheet, etc which adds to the time getting all the teams through admin, etc. As Shoprat pointed out, judges in doing thier job on the show field will ignore the Do Not Touch signs in order to perform thier duties if the car owner can't be located. Which goes back to the point Ex98th was making; if you don't want the car judged and to make sure judges do not touch it, make sure your car is registered as "do not judge" so it has the Blue window card and the judges won't touch it as there will be no need to.

I did the voulentary one plus the mandatory one for 75 this year. Next mandatory will be the etc. level. Is the etc. level like the Sam High level??

The car gets certified on the show field by a sepcial team of judges. You register the car just like if was for a judged class but you need to decide on either the HPOF or DPC class. If the car is for the most part orginal, I'd go for the HPOF. If it is mostly restored, then DPC. If you're kind of on the fence,( car is kind of half and half) my advise would be to enter the HPOF and the cerification team will look at it (done same time as the judging), and make thier evaluiation. If it doesn't recieve it's certifaction in HPOF, then go for the DPC Class in the future. HPOF is a bit of a hard class to get people to understand. Basically they look at the four areas; enigne, interior, exterior and chassis just like in judging but they are looking for what's orginal. They get a percentage for each of the areas then total it up for an overall average. That overall average needs to be 65% or higher. The form is on page 48 of the judging manual 2008 Juding Guidelines Page 51 and 52 gives the explaination of the class.

Let's see: mount some new tiedowns in trailer, Pack trailer, Get camper ready. load comaper on truck, Yep preety close to being ready. I might have to move a semi triler that's blocking the street. Can get around it with a car but not my truck with the camper on it. The people are moving an older gentleman out of his house is the reason for the trailer but it would have been nice if ABF would have dropped it closer to the edge of the road.I wonder what they paid Dick Tracey to park it there and not get ticketed. No trailers are allowed to be parked on the streets at night here.

As for having your car judged at an AACA Region show compared to an AACA National meet can be the difference of night and day. At a national meet your car is scored against a score sheet of four 100 point categories. Interior, exterior, engine, and chassis for a total of 400 max points. As judges find problems in their area of the car, they will make a mental deduction then after they are done will make the appropriate deductions on the score sheet. The team captain compiles the other judge’s scores on your car's score sheet, and then the team moves on. They should only be spending about 5 min per car. At an AACA Regional meet, it is judges how the region decides. They can follow the National standards, to looking the cars over in the class and deciding who they feel should get a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. To (and I serious hope they wouldn't do it this way) giving all pink cars 1st, blue cars 2nd, and yellow ones 3rd. The point I'm trying to make is it is entirely up to the region how they do the judging even if they are an AACA region. If you car is still mostly original, I'd attempt to try the HPOF class and if you don't get the certification there, next time out do DPC, if you feel you won't fair well in the judged class. My mom and I each have a National HPOF car while my dad enters his (too much restoration work been done for HPOF) in the DPC Class at the local region meets here. With the HPOF class, you are allowed some restoration work but mainly what needs to be done to preserve the car. Example, I replaced my driver's side door gasket and trunk gaskets because they were shot and allowing water to enter the car. I probably could get away with replacing the passenger front door gasket too, but I am trying to keep it as original as I possibly can so, I'm just hanging onto that door gasket until I absolutely need to replace it. I would suggest going to an AACA judging school on the Friday of a meet (there will be several schools at Hershey). You'll learn from the class, get a free judging manual (can be downloaded from the AACA Web site under publications) and there is a continuing Judge's Education (CJE) class on HPOF you could take. Just because you go to the school does not mean you have to judge but you are welcome to join us if you like. It's up to you.

It may be a little while. Cleveland meet was last weekend, the San Diego meet is this weekend and Hershey is the following weekend. I'd like to see the results too, but we need to be patient considering their travel schedule these few weeks.

My dad is going to San Diego for the national meet this weekend and then to Hershey. At that point, he will have judged at every national meet this year. As far as local shows, we've done about the same as the past although there are more meets than previous years. Seems everyone wants to put on a car show as a fund raiser. Cleveland Meet: Excellent show. Heard more people than ever on cell phones saying "Hey man, you need to get over here and check this out". The only neg (just a little one)I saw was at judges breakfast. The picnic benches presented a little challange for those with leg problems, especially when it got crowded.

There is a dfferance in opening the hood or door to perform the duty of a judge and being disrespectful of the vehicle and it's owner by using the car as a leaning post, getting up or down aid, etc. Also, the team captain will usally try to have the owner open doors, sometime the owner will tell him/her to go ahead and open it. At the AACA National meets, the hood is suppose to already be up but sometimes it isn't due to the onwer forgot, weather, etc. In the case of the hood, there is 100 points there thay can't be judged if it isn't open. Again, opening and closing is done carefully if the judging team has to do it.

Zonda, that’s like the episode I had with a co-worker one day about my Jeep CJ. Went like this: Co-worker: Hey, it's raining. You better put your windows up. Me: Why? They already are up. Co-worker: No they aren't. Me: Yes they are. Co-worker: How can they be up? Your doors aren't even on! Me: The doors are home, in the carport, and the windows ARE UP!! Returning to your regularly scheduled program.....

Safe bet: Partly sunny and warm turning cooler with a chance of rain possibly turning to flurries.

regarding the time for judges breakfast at Hershey, don't forget how large an area it covers and depending on where you are and where your car is it could take a while to hike between judge's breakfast and get back to your trailer/car. I believe that is just one of the reason that Hershey starts earlier. PLUS another reason is, cars are to be on the show field by 10AM so there is more time for the judging due to the number of cars so the show "starts" and hour earlier like the breakfast is an hour eariler. That's probably the main reason for 7am.

Point judge? i don't know and I'am not going there. As for what they have to do regarding car being turn key is send in the VIN I believe prior to registering (could be at the same time) and the judging "higher ups" will contact the people that have the records from the companies that produced these cars. Most of the manufact. records I understand indicate if the car was sold assembled or as a kit. If the car came assembled, then it is eligble for the class and can be registered in it. There is a CJE on the 2nd Gen car class. It would be worth taking. I took it at Charlotte this year and found it very informative.

I needed one to put out an electrical fire and suffocate the engine on my '95 Dodge Dually diesel on Sunday morning. Had drove the truck 5 blocks to church. (I leave there and head to my parents place for lunch). Truck wouldn't shut off and when I raised the hood, the wiring harness was on fire. Put it out then had to shut the engine down by suffocating it with the extingsher.

bias-ply tires like camber hate caster radials like caster hate camber My chevy II came with radials and I am running the max factory spec for caster and min factory spec for camber with the same toe-in and tires are doing fine for wear.

If I understand things correctly, the Yenko left the factory, went to Yenko, then to the dealer. I believe that is why they are accepted as "factory", where the Earndhart and Gordon cars did not arrive from the GM factory to the dealer as such. Matt, I had mentioned a couple years ago the statment should be something to the affect "as left the factory, intended for hiway use." This would clear the issue of the bumpers and hubcaps being in the back seat instead of on the car.

Back about 1997 I asked in a judging school about these cars and was told that it since it was a regional dealer package and could not be ordered from the factory as such, there would be deductions for the graphics, spoiler, etc. I was planning on keeping the car for show some day in the future, that is one reason I had the dealership leave the graphics off the car was so if it needed paint for any reason I wouldn't loose the graphics. Since it wasn't going to be accepted, I sold the car.

The Earnhart and Gordon Monte Carlos gets into a sticky area. They are not GM Factory production cars as such. In the case of the Gordon Monte Carlo it was any RED '96 Monte Crlo and the dealership intalled the graphics and spoiler (did not come signed either) The package was approved by the SE Chevrolet Dealer's Assocation. You could not order this car from the Factory!! I had one. I believe the Earndhart cas were the same way.

Check you plates and see if it has a really low production numer. I've seen where some states titled when it was bought so it could be a very early '49. I've also see where a '62 Chevy II was titled as a '63 when it was purchased in '63. (I'm not doubting you, but it may explain the very rare occurance of a 6 in a '48)The thing is most of the Jeepster had the four cyl. Just like in 62 & 63 Chevy IIs most had a 6 (although there was 4cyl available) the dealers and manufactuers will order/make what they think they can sell the easiest, and those are the engine sizes that most people will remember being in a certain car.

unfortunely this is one of the gray areas that the judge needs to use those two words.... what were they.... oh... common scense (I know what it is I just can't spell it). I disagree about it falling under "a. Badges and license plate frames with club names other than AACA will NOT be subject to a deduction for authenticity, if they are appropriate to the vehicle and displayed in good taste. They will be judged for condition." It's not a badge or plate frame and Shelby is not a club. BUT.. if it signed in good taste (which since it was one of "his" cars I would think it would be), I wouldn't deduct for it. Now if it was anyone else's signture on this shelby, I'd probably take 1.

The Willys dealership parts books my dad had, called for either the flat head 4 or flathead 6 in '49. Unfortunely my dad got the bright of selling the books on me or I'd copy the info for you. '50 they went to the F head 4 on the Jeepster (not sure about the 6 in '50 as we didn't have a '50 Jeepster so I didn't pay attention to the book).

The Jeepster should be neg. ground. as for the 6 cyl, it was a Willys flat head 6 but as to any more details I can't help. I never got either 6 cyl engine I had back together before desposing of my '49 wagon. My dad had a '49 Jeepster w/ 4 cyl.

I would just in case. After you have your Jr and Sr., then I wouldn't worry so much about having it, but it still wouldn't hurt.

Ron, I guess he pulled your plug!!! <span style="font-size: 14pt">gurgle</span> <span style="font-size: 11pt">gurgle </span> <span style="font-size: 8pt">gurgle </span>

If you have a diesel, which I'm taking you don't. You MUST drive it to warm up. Diesel naturally run colder than gas engines put due to the work required of them usally have large cooling systems too. I can take my '95 Dodge w/ 360 CU IN Cummins and let it idle 30 mins after starting it and it'd be lucky to register at all on the temp gague (10°-30°F morning) The windows don't even defrost!! By driving it like a sane person, the windows will start to defrost in about two miles and fully defrost in about 5. In 10 miles the heater will cook you out of the truck. Just looked at the onwers manual for my car. there is nothing about warming the car but there is two pages on drunk driving. There again, by driving like a sane person, the windows will defog/defrost faster if the car is moving since the engine will make more heat than on idle. Ever think about how much time the automotive engineers spend on engine performance when idling and or cold? Just enough to know how slow it will run without stalling if a load is place on it (A/c cuts on, you put it in drive), and starving itself of fuel and oil. Why so little time? Because the engines (especially gas engines) aren't designed to idle. it's just a nessceity because of the fact you have to start and stop.