George Cole

Nice video. Thanks for posting. Interesting to note the number of cars with white wall tires. Many of the upscale cars in the video (Cadillac, Lasalle, Packard, etc.,) had them, and even some not-so-upscale ones did as well. I'm not saying they all did, but enough for them to be an obviously normal accessory.

Thank you very much. I used this to find the original article with the second page. The magazine it came from was dated 1911. I forwarded the entire article to a descendant of the Ruppert Brewery. He replied that it was a wonderful find. He said he had been searching for years for this information, as his beer-brewer grandfather, Colonel Jacob Ruppert, (1867-1939) told him they had a fleet of electric delivery trucks but they were slower than fermenting beer. George

Want to buy - Cole Motor Car parts and accessories. I'm restoring 2 Cole cars and need multiple parts. As Cole was an assembled car, many parts are off-the-shelf so are common to other makes. For example, I need 2 Columbia axle half-shafts. I need a 23-inch Firestone 12-spoke wooden wheel. I have a hub, so if I could find the correct felloe, I could have a new wheel made. I need. I need. I need. Thanks, George

Not sure. The ones that look something like this.

1918-1920 Cole Aero 8, 7-passenger touring car. Definitely not an original horn.

Australian nurses during influenza pandemic near Surry Hills, Sydney, 1919. Can anyone ID the car?

American Red Cross - 1917. Can anyone ID the cars?

Cole Motor Cars, including brass era cars, had standard hickory painted wheels or optional natural wood finish. Late teens and 20s cars also offered optional Di-steel wheels, which were a solid steel dish wheel. From what i can tell, my 1920 touring car has its original natural wood finish wheels, although covered in 100 years of caked on grease and grime and crud. I'm in the process of sanding and refinishing them with marine spar varnish. I am not using oxalic acid as I want the wood grain to be evident and not bleached out. My 1919 roadster has non-original white painted wood spoke wheels. I will eventually sand them and finish them the same as the touring car. Pictures are of the same wheel, before and after. Long ways from being finished.

Seems like it's about time to shut this thread down before there's another flaming fubah.

There's lots more to it. Way too much to cover here. And we're still working on it, although most leads and sources have been exhausted, dried up or died.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not against electric vehicles...unless I feel they're being shoved down my throat with bogus claims of their superiority.

Another long story, so I won't go into much of the details, other than I've been working on genealogy for over 20 years. My ancestors opened the A. Finck & Son's Brewery in Manhattan. My g-g-g-grandfather was married to Louise Schaefer, believed to be sister to Fredrick & Maximilian Schaefer, who opened their brewery in the Bronx. The Ruppert Brewery (Knickerbocker beer,) also opened in Manhattan. Their family is also believed to be related during the same generation but so far we haven't found the link. My late elders used to have permanent box seats in Yankee Stadium, (owned by Colonel Jacob Ruppert), claiming they were from Uncle Jake. My g-g-g-grandfather & his wife Louise, Phillip Schaefer (father of F. & M. Schaefer, and Jacob Ruppert Sr. are all buried beneath the same 6-sided monument in Green-Wood Cemetery, Bronx. Supposedly all families shared the cost of the monument, with approximately 150 burial sites surrounding it. I own a shared deed to multiple remaining plots, passed down through generations. (I've got a list of names of those who I'd like to bury there.) And for what it's worth, the Finck Brewery closed in 1911 after one of their most productive years, brewing over 50,000 barrels. No one knows what became of the amassed fortune, as none of it was passed to any known descendants. There is much, much more to the story. This is the Reader's Digest version. So as part of the research, I've been trying to determine when the Finck Brewery switched from horse-drawn wagons to motorized transportation of their beer. The picture shown above is the Ruppert Brewery's first motorized delivery vehicle. I would love to find similar pictures of the Finck and Schaefer Breweries, but so far no luck.

Can anyone tell me what it is?

Back when men were men and women were feminine but not fragile.

You probably don't know the secret handshake.

Don't know what anyone is complaining about. In less than a month the new administration has reversed global warming. Hurrah!

Completely and totally disagree. My did didn't work for them...I did and saw it first hand. I worked for the Air Force for 20 years and NASA as both a contractor and a Civil Servant for another 28 years. NASA's failures had nothing to do with the Air Force...NASA and the AF are completely and totally separate federal agencies. All of NASA's failures had nothing to do with rocket science or doing things never done before. AND NO ONE WAS EVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE. If you disagree, give me one name of an individual who lost their job, were demoted, or held criminally liable because of any of NASA's failures. Their weren't any! In many cases, once the dust settled, those involved got reassigned and promoted. Some even got promoted in place. Every one of NASA's catastrophic failures were well-known and documented basic nuts-and-bolts basic issues which were ignored by those in positions to correct them. They either turned a blind-eye to the problem, or changed design specifications to align with the sub-standard hardware, processes, and procedures. NASA's system was beyond reproach for designing and developing very specific program requirements, and then in every case, failed to follow it. Case-in-Point: Space Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters were designed to be used in minimum 40-degree F temperatures...no less. It was a simple issue...when it was cold, the rubber O-rings failed to properly seal and put the joint seal at risk. NASA had been violating the temperature design requirement practically every winter, launching when temps dropped lower and lower below the 40-degree minimum. And every time they did, O-ring seals between the booster segments would burn further and further through. As it got worse, working level engineers kept advising management of the problem and risk of catastrophic failure. They repeatedly advised management not to launch in temperatures below 40-degrees. Management refused to acknowledge the concerns and said rather than sealing the joints, the O-rings were self-sacrificial. Nothing could have been further from the truth. KSC had been experiencing several days of temperatures below 40-degrees. It was 28-degrees the morning of STS-25 (Challenger) launch...the coldest it had ever been for a Space Shuttle launch. Engineers repeatedly gave a NO-GO for launch. Management overruled them. Seventy-three seconds into flight, O-rings burned through one booster segment joint, torched through the attaching strut to the external tank, and ruptured the tank. O-ring burn-through during cold weather was a well-known, well documented, basic problem, which violated the Space Shuttle's design criteria. There was no rocket science or magic smoke involved. Yet no one was ever held accountable for the 7 lives and billions of taxpayer's dollars lost. I can give you similar details for the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, Apollo 1, Apollo 13, and others. I was there....I lived it. No hearsay from my father or anyone else who may have worked for some other government agency. So in regards to the Great White, Ed will have a grossly sub-standard product if all he accepts is the level of NASA's incompetence, as they are nothing more than a typical bureaucratic federal government agency.

He'll play Hell stacking sheets of plywood on that. Maybe strap them to the roof?

We need to figure out ahead of time how to get a car or motorcycle hidden in there.

Here's two more with the right and the thumb wrapped.

I've looked and looked and looked on line and can't find images of cranking with the left hand...in fact some of t hem showed cranking with both hands.