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I see a lot of post 1975 cars in Hemmings BAT etc.. without emission equipment including Cat converters. Probably right that EPA is not going to get involved, but they could indirectly. Someone buys a post 1975 car and decides to move to AZ or CA and suddenly finds he can't pass a smog test, or this happens two sale purchases from when it originally happened. Then the owner sues and it ends up in court. If you take that stuff off and the plaintiff brings in expert witnesses you are toast. You'll probably have to pay a fine and buy the car back (if it's not confiscated) and that would be the easy way because tampering with intent usually means jail time. There are quite a few smog techs sitting in prison at this very minute.

According to the law everything must be like it came from the factory unless the state or fed issues a part compliant part. Like a CARB # replacement part. Quite a few years back while Ca. was still testing 1966-1975 cars ( which by the way can be brought back into smog check any time without referendum) A friend of mine had a very hard time to get his Pontiac GTO to pass the emission test, so he was going to fuel inject the car and add twin cats. State wouldn't let him do it. It must pass with original equipment!

California smog regulation started in 1961 and Federal started in 62-63. California emission testing started in 1966 with the introduction of exhaust emission control devises.

Yes, this is a Federal EPA rule. Doesn't matter if your state has no test. Think what could happen if you sold that car to someone who's state is testing, and they trace it back to you.

Just remember that legally your 1976 Fleetwood is illegal, and to change your 76 Seville to a carburetor is also illegal according to the Fed. government and many states too. That also includes removing of any part of the emission control systems including a catalytic converter.

I should have mentioned that! Thanks, Bloo!

The February 2022 of Collectible Automobile featured GM's cars of 1957. Looking at all the GM lines I have mixed feelings that can tear me away from reality for instance, I have been a Pontiac / Oldsmobile fan as far as I can remember (3) and that is attributed to my dad and my dad's side of our family. That means there was always a bit of prejudice on my part. The 57 Pontiac when ordered correctly like a Chieftain Catalina is not a bad looking car, especially next to a chrome laden 57 StarChief Catalina. The 57 Olds is also a good-looking car if ordered correctly. It seems GM gave you so much hardware that you could order to personalize your car that you could end up ruining it. Also, the drivetrain has a lot to do with making a car attractive to a buyer and that's why Pontiac Olds and Cadillac hold an advantage over Buick and Chevrolet. I know why Buick and Chevrolet decided against Hydra-Matic, both for two different reasons. Anyroad, flipping the pages of this magazine I have two favorites as far as styling goes for 1957. The first would be the 57 Coupe De Ville and the close second would be the 57 BelAir 2 dr HT. There is something about all of the GM 1957 line that I don't like, however the least amount of styling faults goes to Cadillac and Chevrolet IF ordered properly. <1957----->1958chromed up and fins reversed This 1957 Cadillac above shows where GM styling is going. The swept back "A" pillar swept forward "C" pillar and the rest of the roof will be on the 58 Chevrolet and Pontiac. Cadillac was so adamant about NOT having skirts on cars with sweep cut wheelhouse openings that they used stainless wheel lip molding so you couldn't add an aftermarket skirt. Speaking of what not to order, the factory can screw things up too. Just look what Cadillac did with the basic 57 Cad when they made the 58. I'll never get tired of the looks of the car below. I think the reason why I walk past most Tri-Five Chevrolets is because of what people have done to them and not because of their basic good looks. The only overexposure is from cars pictured below! As such;

I used to buy my starter / generator/alternator parts from a shop in Inglewood Ca. The two-man shop was there when I was a kid going there with my pop getting parts or the use of a growler (for free). Then one day they were gone, 50+ years I'd say. Then, I found another shop in Carson Ca. over by Harbor General and then they disappeared too. You know when I was a kid in H/S auto shop and also by my dad, they taught us kids how to rebuild those things and now I can't get the parts to do it.

I live in Prescott AZ and there are a lot of car guys around here, and there are quite a few car guy garage sales / estate sales. Whenever there are Q jets for sale I buy them up cheap and go through them. Best 4bbl carb made.

My understanding is Edelbrock doesn't make EQjets anymore

Mine was Midnight Green and now is Black. Go figure! Actually, my car is a H-O LeMans. It's not that I couldn't afford a GTO, it was the insurance that decided it so that's what I ordered in November 68. The factory big valve #48 heads really help the 354 make it's 330HP. Now it's got a 456 thirty over @ 462 cubes http://www.pismoderelicts.com/photogallery/new format 937/images/p1020752.jpg http://www.pismoderelicts.com/photogallery/new format 937/images/p1020753.jpg

A word to all those whose car came with and has a Q jet. A replacement Edelbrock will never work as good as a Q jet in any capacity, especially for mileage and on the other side of the coin - performance. It's not just carburetors that get replace needlessly, just go to your local parts store and ask for bearings, brushes, slip rings and a diode pack for your 1969 alternator let alone a 1959 generators parts. At least you can still get a carburetor kit.

Instead of Marvel I use a 1/2 pint of ATF to 15 gallons and the engines don't smoke. So, 29 GMC with a twin head Pontiac six!

Is your GTO in Verdoro Green or Midnight Green?

Spoken by the service advisor to the customer. Oh, and the ECM is not part of the fuel injection system and therefore not covered by warranty. Yeah sure😝

Once the drip rail, rocker and wheelhouse moldings plus some rally 1's are on it will look a treat! Question: How easy/hard was it to install a donor cars dash and firewall & components to make up your factory air?

There are three answers, one is from a fire truck/airplane perspective, they can't afford a ignition failure, Two, race cars used them because the engine will make more power through more complete combustion. Three some late model cars from the 80's to today use them because of the more complete combustion and cleaner emissions, especially in the area of NOX emissions.

Interesting this thread has had little attraction. I guess most people here aren't interested in factory go fast cars. I am though thanks again.

Well then, I'd say go for it. I only mentioned the wife bit because it's no fun going places alone or with someone who really doesn't want to be with you in the car.

Thanks for showing. Lots of pony cars, sports cars, I don't know what you would classify some of the AMC cars (except the AMX-2 seat sports car) and just a few muscle cars. A lot of money in cars and building. One of the few guys these days that know how fast a 354" Pontiac H-O can be, and I believe he said he's got 2 or 3.

I'd say, especially in reference to the very first post to listen to your wife. She's your best pal who always tells the truth.😉

The manufacturer I worked for had a dedicated serviceability section of engineering to look at problems. As you probably know most if not all cars have a metal birdcage framework behind those pretty dash layouts. We were doing time studies on heater a/c components for flat rate manuals and engineering was having fits because of the time certain procedures were taking so they sent a serviceability engineer to look at the problem. We told him OK let's see if you can do this procedure any faster. After he finished which took about twice as long as the times we were getting I felt sorry for the guy because his arms were cut up all over and was bleeding pretty badly-even had scratches on his head. Not only are some of the components hard to get to, but all that metal framework is not de-burred. In order to look like a normal human being after finishing the job instead of someone who looked like he was mauled by a bear you not only have to know the product and it's systems, but you have to know how to carefully negotiate your way around in there as well. FYI, our Campaigns and Recall division that I worked for didn't let incidents pile up to make investigations like some manufacturers do. Some take action because of the government, some take action due to an accident, and others only take action when they get to a certain number of incidents.

The oldest 6v I have ever had for one of my VW's was a DELCO, it lasted 12 years. That battery was replaced by a NAPA Commercial and it lasted a little over a year. I've got another NAPA Commercial in there now for about a year and I'm crossing my fingers

I see, the creator created the engine out of need and when he put that engine in a carriage it became a motorcar. The creator got a little confused when he created an engine to go in a sailing ship so he just called the ship a steam ship with a steam engine, but just to satisfy all, the little baby boats (life boats) were named motorboats, unless they didn't have a engine they were just row boats. The creator got his senses back when he created piston and jet engines for his airplane but did name all the auxiliary electrical devises motors so as to not confuse anyone especially air traffic controllers who had adopted the most expressive language in the world (English) concerning the human condition so as not to confuse anyone in the air or on the ground. However, the guys at the fire department were confused because one of them forgot to bring the firemotor to the fire even though a fire engine was available right next to them. Nobody gets it!

You can see where Pontiac was aiming at in 69. I bought a new one and still have it. General Motors Vintage The Great Breakaway