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Ray, good day. cquisulia in France was responding to a post from a new member ‘Abakumss’ that I think Jim was referring to that now appears to be deleted… —— On 4/10/2023 at 4:32 PM, Abakumsssaid: Hello there! I see that you are having trouble with your power windows and bench. It sounds like you have a battery-powered system, which is definitely convenient but can also be risky without proper safety measures. —— This ^ is/was the message cquisulia responded to. in terms of old threads being resurrected, especially by new members it can be a good thing, kinda shows they are searching the archives for information and/or thought their knowledge could be of help on a specific topic. It did seem odd to me at first, but the internet still seems odd to me too so what do I know… I thought some of the recent subsequent replies were on topic… Later, EDIT: For what it's worth, and I certainly don't mean to insult anyone for how they compose their messages, but after re-reading the "resurrecting post" in question (or at least the clip noted above^) it almost does read like a response someone may have got using the new technology ChatGTP... It kind of reiterates your problem, presents an understanding but really doesn't offer much else in closing solution. Again, I'm just wearing my conspiracy theorist hat right now, and if that was in fact penned by a real human, please take it as a small compliment as it was well written.... (sort of..) The world is getting odder by the day, and/or I'm just getting older by the day...)

Good day. From what I understand, if the tires meet US DOT standards (and/or Japan JIS) and they are marked as such, they can be imported/used in Canada... https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d19/d19-12-2-eng.html Later,

Not mine, just posting it… https://www.kijiji.ca/v-cars-trucks/edmonton/1978-buick-riviera/1655390008 Later, Edit: Must have sold, ad no longer available…

Some great suggestions here, guys, much appreciated. I notice the OP and myself are in Canada, and I can't imagine what the shipping, duties etc. will cost if I/we have to bring new skins outta the US. If any Canadians have had success getting 'cost effective' whitewalls in the Great White North, any advice would be appreciated. Later,

Good day. Is there somewhere one can find out how many Riv’s of a particular colour were produced in a certain year? I’ve looked through the ROA archives and couldn’t find anything specific. I’m looking to find out how many Wedgewood Blue (code H) were produced in 1964. My understanding it was the only year it was offered, at least under that specific name. It would be cool to see the variety and quantity of colours for a full year production, but again, I would like to know about production numbers for 1964 paint code H. Thanks. Later,

Good day. As mentioned, colour is not the crucial topic, but if it was me I would want to figure it out as best I could, or at least come up with a plausible explanation. And since I'm a little bored, based on a couple more searches, it may be some form of an GM/plant error in terms of which paint chart was being used when that car was being painted. I found a chart very similar to the one you posted ^^ except two colours have different, numbers. Surprisingly, Charcoal Mist and Regal Black codes have been changed/corrected?? Regal Black at the bottom of your chart ^^ was listed as 18, (which would match your data plate) but in the chart I just found it is was now code 19. If there was some way to prove this error, your car in question may be even rarer if the production numbers Pat posted about the 565 Black '72s that were ALL coded 19 Regal Black, and this one lone Regal Black is coded 18... One-of things can be pretty rare... (don't mention it to the Owner, it may add to his perception of value... 😊) If any of that makes sense, maybe it adds another page to this car's story... Fun stuff, gotta love a mystery... Later,

Having the provenance is always great to know what the car was. What the car is today, may be a different story. Knowing how difficult some parts are to get here, I suspect to keep the car running in Europe, the old adage of 'necessity is the mother of invention' comes into play a great deal. (Just ask the guys down-under) so what should/could/would be on an original GS, may have been changed out just to keep the car running with whatever parts were available. As mentioned, at the end of the day, it still looks like a nice car. Good luck, keep us posted. Later,

Good catch…

Pat, good day. I apologize if I added/brought confusion to this thread, sometimes, I just believe what I read, and sometimes just try to help. Now that I've done a few more images searches, it does appear that a number of high quality '72s have the three vertical lamps, while some have a single. Again, this gen Riv' is outside my realm, but assuming that the three vertical cornering lights were an option in both years, maybe the Riview article is simply comparing the writer's two Riv's ('71-72) specifically and the variations between each of them as opposed to making a general statement about the two years' variations as a whole. I read it as the latter. Some variations (I think) apply to all cars such as the louves and grille, others obviously (maybe) not. Again, in hindsight, I probably shouldn't even be in this thread adding to the confusion, (it does look like a nice car) but the screwed on data plate certainly peaked my interest in what appeared to be (not saying it is...) someone trying to pass off a Riv that it's not. But now that I'm here, one other thing seems odd in my (ahem) extensive google search of this generation. In the above ^^ engine bay photo, the two bars that V out from the firewall to the fenders, are these common on the '72? I see a lot of '73's with 'em, but I've yet to find a '72 image (sans above) that have these two bars. Again, it looks like a great car, and at the end of the day, it is what it is and probably nice and very cool to drive, but as always, ...caveat emptor...(buyer be-Aware) Later,

Good day As mentioned, I made the comment regarding the cornering lamps based on the article in the current Riview… This may have been a mid-production change, I have no idea, but just mentioned it as I was reading the Riview when the topic was started.

Jason, good day. The chart found on the Old Manual Project from a 1972 colour chart seems to indicate that black was available but at an extra charge so chances are they are/were out in the wild.... If correct maybe the ROA website needs an asterisk... A few more pics for distinct spotting features of this '72 (versus a '71) may be in order to determine if indeed this is a 'rare' black '72 or a misrepresented '71... http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Buick/1972_Buick/1972 Buick Exterior Colors Chart/index1.html

Good day. I tend to be a first get Riv' guy, but I was just on the ROA website, and had a quick look at the info on the website for the '72 colours charts. This screenshot indicates that black was not offered for exterior in '72...?? Also, agree with Pat, ^ that the screwed on data plate should be somewhat of a concern, at least it would be on this side of the pond. Can't imagine why it would be different for export vehicles... Later, EDIT: "A19-Regal Black" appears to be on the '70-'71 and'73 Riv... but not '72... EDIT 2: In the March/April Review, there is a comparison of the 71-72, and the three vertical front cornering lights appear to indicate this is a '71 not a '72. ('72 apparently went to a single amber vertical light) Probably another red flag if the seller is selling it as a '72... (or maybe I just stick to first gen stuff...)

Tough call, not sure your budget, ultimate desires for the car, etc. but based on what I see, I would lean more to the "Rat Riv" look, especially with the wild DIY interior and some nice looking patina especially on the roof, too bad the hood didn't have the same colour match. Couldn't imagine the time, effort and cost to restore the interior back to original, but to each their own. Although not to everybody's taste, some rat-rods are pretty darn cool... Later,

Woot woot, USPS & Canada Post and Storage finally came through today… 53.5461° N, 113.4937° W …😊 Later,

Good day. That would be my suggestion as well, the problem would be matching colours. Probably okay if one was doing black, but a quick search doesn't find too many options. and I doubt this blue would match... https://www.amazon.ca/VViViD-Adhesive-Weatherproof-Leather-Marine/dp/B0753GLZLQ/ref=sr_1_41?hvadid=208348255621&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9001361&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=17787762009468762858&hvtargid=kwd-307149596361&hydadcr=29054_9846017&keywords=leather%2Bvinyl%2Bwrap&qid=1679421955&sr=8-41&th=1 Painting for effect is challenging and will likely take a lot of trial and error of various brushes/rollers/technique/etc. to get a good, consistent look as well as matching paint colours. Later,

No here's a testament to a high mileage Buick... almost five time around the world...🧐 Mileage: 12345678

Ya gotta love it. I initiated a parts purchase with Ken on Friday March 3, for an antenna for my '64, and with wild amazement both USPS and Canada Post (and usually Storage) got it to me in less than a week as the package (a sizeable box) arrived today. With the way air travel is these days, I probably couldn't have flown there and back in less time. Mind you, I probably paid more for the part than the airfare woulda cost, but my grief is more in the duties and taxes, and the total disrespect in the global markets for the value of our way prettier Canadian dollar. Man we get hammered some days... sheesh Seriously tho' in spite of what my wife thinks of my spending habits, I'm ecstatic to finally get a decent (and pro- rebuilt) antenna for the Riv' and it came very well packaged and arrived safe and sound. Well done, Ken, you must be near a professional packer by now. I would not hesitate to do business with Ken again as he cleans out a pretty amazing stash of some pretty unobtanium parts. Just gotta find a better way to keep my "accountant" from finding out what I'm spending... Thanks again, sir, great doing business with you, take care. Later,

Cool stuff. The shifting sequence at about the 1:00 minute mark seemed odd, and some of the driving scenes also seemed like the driver may have spent too much time behind the wheel of his 43 hp Renault r8 before getting behind some good ol' North American horses, but still fun to watch. Thanks for sharing. Later,

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Sean, good day. Although it's out there now, I would recommend in the future that when you are providing an email address on any public forum site, provide it something like this...Sean.smhbuxton at gmail dot com. Most people can fill in the blanks but this prevents the scammers that use algorithms to troll discussion forums, etc, looking for email addresses to spam.

For clarity, (at least how I interpret your "how to" noted earlier ^^) I think (?) this crude sketch shows the dimensions you are on about.

Except that the seller has indicated in the description the 'miles', not the odometer reading...

Too funny... The interesting difference from the 1939 to the 2023 'jelly-beans' is that in that image, not a black, white or silver/grey colour in the mix. Not that they weren't out in the wild back then, but try to drive 25-ft today without seeing one of those ubiquitous (yawn) colours... Later,

Although I like the glitz and shiny glamour as much as the next guy, but if there's a positive, there is some pretty cool patina on some of the body panels for those that can see the beauty in what nature brings to finely aged metal...

Good day. I have no idea if that could be done, but what about looking into having a panel 3D printed then painted aluminium. Again, I know little about the technology and what it would take to create the template,3D pieces, etc, but sometimes what we can't replicate, we must simply represent. Other than that, I got nothin'... Later,