mike6024

You can file a NHTSA complaint. http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/complaint.cfm

The Land Rover Series 1 has a level of sophistication just above one of my garden mowers.

That is an interesting coincidence. Between the both of you, you did not miss anything.

The Berwick was an electric car manufactured in Grand Rapids, Michigan, by the Berwick Auto Car Company in 1904. The Berwick was an electric two-seater runabout selling for $750. It had three speed positions, was tiller operated, and had a top speed of 15 mph (24 km/h).

Apparently in the US not all uses of asbestos are banned. There was a lawsuit that overturned some portions of the EPA ban. http://www.epa.gov/asbestos/us-federal-bans-asbestos Examples of asbestos-containing products not banned The manufacture, importation, processing and distribution in commerce of these products, as well as some others not listed, are not banned. Cement corrugated sheet Cement flat sheet Clothing Pipeline wrap Roofing felt Vinyl floor tile Cement shingle Millboard Cement pipe Automatic transmission components Clutch facings Friction materials Disk brake pads Drum brake linings Brake blocks Gaskets Non-roofing coatings Roof coatings Banned products and uses Under the Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA): Banned Manufacture, Importation, Processing and Distribution in Commerce of Certain Asbestos-containing Products Corrugated paper Rollboard Commercial paper Specialty paper Flooring felt In addition, the regulation continues to ban the use of asbestos in products that have not historically contained asbestos, otherwise referred to as “new uses” of asbestos. Top of Page Under the Clean Air Act (CAA): Banned Asbestos-containing Uses Asbestos pipe insulation and asbestos block insulation on facility components, such as boilers and hot water tanks, if the materials are either pre-formed (molded) and friable or wet-applied and friable after drying. Spray-applied surfacing asbestos-containing materials Spray-on application of materials containing more than 1% asbestos to buildings, structures, pipes, and conduits unless certain conditions specified under 40 CFR 61, Subpart M are met. Top of Page Under the Consumer Product Safety Act (Consumer Product Safety Commission): Banned Products Asbestos in artificial fireplace embers and wall patching compounds Regulatory history of asbestos bans In 1973, EPA banned spray-applied surfacing asbestos-containing material for fireproofing/insulating purposes. See National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants (NESHAP) at 40 CFR Part 61, Subpart M In 1975, EPA banned installation of asbestos pipe insulation and asbestos block insulation on facility components, such as boilers and hot water tanks, if the materials are either pre-formed (molded) and friable or wet-applied and friable after drying. See National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants (NESHAP) at 40 CFR Part 61, Subpart M In 1978, EPA banned spray-applied surfacing materials for purposes not already banned. See National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants (NESHAP) at 40 CFR Part 61, Subpart M In 1977, the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) banned the use of asbestos in artificial fireplace embers and wall patching compounds. (See 16 CFR Part 1305 and 16 CFR 1304) In 1989, the EPA issued a final rule under Section 6 of Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) banning most asbestos-containing products. However, in 1991, this rule was vacated and remanded by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. As a result, most of the original ban on the manufacture, importation, processing, or distribution in commerce for the majority of the asbestos-containing products originally covered in the 1989 final rule was overturned. See 40 CFR 763 Subpart I. Asbestos Ban and Phase-Out Federal Register notices Asbestos-containing products that remain banned Examples of Asbestos-containing products not banned (i.e, products no longer subject to the 1989 TSCA ban because it was overturned) In 1990, EPA prohibited spray-on application of materials containing more than 1% asbestos to buildings, structures, pipes, and conduits unless certain conditions specified. See National Emission Standards for Hazardous Air Pollutants (NESHAP) at 40 CFR 61, Subpart M are met.

I don't have cable, and suppose I should be grateful.

Looks like an Fe2O3 to me.

All the pics are still available, I just had trouble finding them. Check this link. http://tlaferriere.readyhosting.com/1917_chalmers_speedster_project.htm

I read sidedraft carb on the right side of engine and this exhaust crossover the top was called "stove top heater." ??? And then newer engine was changed to updraft carb on the left exhaust side, with that serpentine type manifold for heating the intake. One of those was pictured earlier in this thread. But I think this detail around the top edge of the tub is most telling. Like Grandpa pointed out. Looks to be a match to me.

http://forums.aaca.org/topic/278896-1918-chalmers-touring-30-for-sale/ 1918 Chalmers

This might be a 1917 Chalmers. Note the detail across the top edge of the doors, like Grandpa said seemed distinctive.

This is the only Chalmers engine that pops up online. It is not a match. It is this vehicle: 1920 Chalmers 35C - 5, http://barnfinds.com/sixty-years-in-a-barn-1920-chalmers-35-c/

That photo is held in a museum and they think it was taken in 1918. I suppose they are mistaken. http://digitalcollections.lib.washington.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/imlsmohai/id/5876 Title Chalmers cars at the Paradise Inn, Mount Rainier National Park, ca. 1918 Photographer Webster & Stevens Date ca. 1918 Caption In 1915, sixteen years after the creation of Mount Rainier National Park, the National Park Service built a single lane road from Longmire Springs to Paradise Valley. The Paradise Inn was built in 1916 and became a popular destination for automobile trips. A car could leave Seattle or Tacoma after breakfast and eat lunch at the Paradise Inn. Before the automobile and better roads, this trip would have taken at least a full day . In this photo, taken in about 1918, three Chalmers cars full of tourists park in front of Paradise Inn at Mount Rainier. Subjects Automobiles; Hotels; National parks & reserves; Paradise Inn (Mount Rainier National Park); Sightseeing Places Paradise (Wash.); Rainier, Mount (Wash.); Mount Rainier National Park (Wash.); Digital Collection Museum of History & Industry Photograph Collection Image Number 1983.10.3065 Ordering Information To order a reproduction or to inquire about permissions contact photos@mohai.org or phone us at 206-324-1126. Please refer to the Image Number and provide a brief description of the photograph. Repository Museum of History & Industry, Seattle (MOHAI) Supposedly a Chalmers.

Here it is pictured yet again, haha

This shows what a 1911 Regal Radiator looks like. It seems to be a match. Another Regal 30 picture.

On the subject car, the front lip of the front fenders is very distinctive. It looks like it has an extra piece attached under the outer fender. Don't see anything quite like that on Regal 30 pictures, I don;t think. 1913 Regal Underslung has a front fender something like that. 1912 Engine. http://theoldmotor.com/?p=137816

1911 reo touring car, is the second picture.

The second photo in my post above is NOT EVEN a Regal. You can just ignore it. I got confused. It popped up when i did a search and i assumed it matched the search criteria, and was a Regal but it's just not. Might be a REO or something else. Sorry.

Acid etching info http://www.csitechblog.com/2011/07/how-crime-labs-restore-obliterated-serial-numbers.html When serial numbers are stamped into a metal surface, the metal beneath these stamps is compressed. When the numbers are removed, either by filing or grinding, a relatively smooth surface results. In many cases the perpetrator is satisfied that his task was successful if the numbers are no longer visible. But in reality, the compressed metal still retains these marks. The theory behind acid etching is quite simple: When applying an etching reagent, generally a strong acid, the metal around the stamped marks will be etched or eaten away by the acid leaving the compressed metal intact. One of the instructors in a well-known crime scene technology program tells the story of how serial number restoration saved him a considerable amount of money. This instructor was following up on an advertisement for a 1967 Chevy Camero with a 302 Cu. In. engine. He stated that if this vehicle was all original equipment, it would command the asking price of $19,000 (20-years ago). While visiting the seller and inspecting the car, he asked where the engine block number was located. The seller said that when the car was in for maintenance, a mechanic had accidently removed the numbers. HMMMMM! The instructor, now somewhat skeptical about that bit of information suggested that he and the seller should restore the number and the seller agreed. Using the steel etching gel from his classroom, he made several attempts but the numbers did not reappear. He then decided to take a pass on buying the car. The next day the seller called and told the disinterested buyer that he had left the etching gel on the block for several hours and the full serial number appeared. Checking with the manufacturer, the seller learned that the engine block was a replacement and not original equipment, thus saving the instructor about $10,000!

That would be similar to the situation of trying to recover the serial number from a gun used in a crime, when it had been filed off. Not easy. This article says simple acid etching may reveal some information, and very expensive scanning electron microscope it sounds like may get more information. The original stamping leaves some residual stress in the metal even below the actual numbers. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/scientists-develop-a-technique-to-find-serial-numbers-that-have-been-filed-off/2015/05/11/45e76fce-d489-11e4-8fce-3941fc548f1c_story.html?utm_term=.1401dadb634c “Only two of the seven serial number characters could be restored” by his usual acid-etching techniques, An alternative process under development since 2013 may fix this problem in the future. Using a technique called electron backscatter diffraction, or EBSD, researchers at the Boulder, Colo., campus of the National Institute of Standards and Technology have been developing a novel way to bring back to life numbers that have been completely sanded away. While the method, which uses an electron microscope to examine atoms in metal, still requires refining, NIST materials scientists Ryan White and Robert Keller say it should be capable of restoring a full serial number, even in such difficult cases as the Mossberg shotgun, in about an hour.

https://driveshare.com/car/366/ I'd like to rent this one. V-8 Sunbeam Tiger. Andy Rooney had one of these. He talked about it on 60 minutes. https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hsx/2014/01/A-few-minutes-with-Andy-Rooney-s-Tiger---1966-Sunbeam-Tiger/3733701.html

I've considered buying a newer low value "classic" to rent out that way. It might be profitable. Since I live in "Whine" Country it think this would be popular for touring the area. And if one could be acquired for $7k or so. IF my '67 were restored, which it definitely is not, I would no consider it. This one here is not mine, but you can see they have almost no bumpers and the slightest tap would be disastrous.