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Does anyone know who bought the Verdone Casting business?

I think it's a good question - I always thought if I lived in the south in the 1920's I'd paint my car white by brush if I had to. I did read a long time ago that black was the fastest drying color and the only color that could keep up with the production line, I don't know how true that is. Attached is a factory photo of a white 1926 Gardner roadster. Gardner had colors in 1920 but for some reason did not advertise that until about 1927.

I know this guy and he is incredible!! He got this car April 1st and had it restored by November of the same year. WOW!! In less than 8 months he had it done and he had to replace all of the wood. He has restored over 50 cars and I think he still has most of them. I also attached a picture of my 28 Gardner roadster which is very close to the to the car posted by keiser31. FYI a 1930 Gardner roadster will be sold at auction by goodingco.com in Pebble Beach today or tomorrow.

It wasn't just the mistakes that I found upsetting; it was what they didn't say. Henry Ford applied to pay the trust that held the Selden patent and they insulted him and he got POed. That's when he said he will never give them a dime. The true story is more interesting than what they presented. Steve posted " we have in fact reached out to many major channels and offered them free research by our library. " An organization that calls itself the History Channel should do the research or change their name.

This is not my car but I have seen it and it is Pebble Beach flawless. This may be your only chance to own a Gardner 8 cyl roadster they are that rare. For the history buffs (That's all of us) about 1,500 pages of Gardner history goes with the car, and covers all years 1920-1931. Auction is in a few days Aug 18-19 and I'd love to see someone who reads this blog put it in their garage. Lots of pictures at www.goodingco.com

I loved walking into the library every morning and seeing the Mitchell, just made me smile. Dr. & Mrs. Malcolm (the Mitchell descendants) were wonderful people and we were very lucky that they were acquainted with another AACA member (sorry, his name slips my mind at the moment) who recommended that they donate the car to the library.

1930 Gardner Sport Roadster Model 140 - 8 cyl. Fresh restoration and shown at Pebble Beach 2016. Will be sold at the Gooding Auction Aug 18-19 no reserve. Authentic restoration and stunning colors of black, silver & red. Only 2 of this year and model known to exist, a rare chance to own this full Classic. www.goodingco.com and article on www.gardnermotorcars.com

I don't have an answer to that, however, it seems to me that it was mentioned at the newsletter seminar in Philly about regions that only do electronic having to print out their newsletter to send in for the newsletter contest. I would hope that if a region/chapter decides to go the electronic route, they would still print some copies for those that want to receive a hard copy. Mary Bartemeyer or Pat Buckley might know if there are any that only produce electronic copies.

Hi John, There are several regions that do their newsletters in electronic format. In some of the regions, the members that wish to receive a hard copy pay a little bit more to cover the postage. Kim Gardner

Hi Judy, I asked the same question and Pat Buckley told me that if we are signed up to submit the newsletter electronically, we do not have to submit hard copies to National or to the President. Kim Gardner

I have a machine shop ready to make reproduction hub caps for Gardner wood wheels 1927-1931. For a limited time (mid-March) these are available for $200 for the cap body and $60 for the center emblem plus shipping and a small fee for riveting the emblem. - Not cheap but until now not available. Image below is repro emblem and original cap. Details & contact info at http://www.gardnermotorcars.com/Hubcaps.html

John, 84 newsletters were entered with 20 Master Editor Awards, 18 Excellence, 34 Distinction and 12 Merit awards. I don't know the total number of regions or the number that have newsletters. Kim Gardner

It was Randy's dad, Tom Hespenheide, that passed away a while back. Randy does still have the Pullman.

I think Chrysler had a silver head as well. The 1930 Chrysler had a compression ratio of 5.00. I do think this was more marketing than anything else, however in the case of Gardner they did have the highest HP for the number of cylinders for a few years. I've made an effort to study Gardner and I've found that Chrysler seemed to copy what Gardner introduced, such as the exposed oak bow going to the pivot point behind the roadster door (1925) in 1925 or 1926 Gardner had a 3 door roadster in 1927 Chrysler used that design on their Imperial. So I wonder if this was something that Chrysler saw in Gardner and copied.

The yellow jacket head came out in with the 1929 models, the compression ratio for 1930 was 5.25 CID 299 and 126HP. Which made the Gardner about 4th for most HP. (They were tied for 1st in 1928-29 among production 8 cyl cars) The difference with the yellow jacket was that they went to a duplex carburetor. The same Lycoming engine was used in other makes but to my knowledge none called them yellow jacket. In 1923 Gardner had the most HP of any 4 cyl car and the head was painted red the block was black. I think this was part marketing and an effort to point to the high HP.

You may have seen the 1930 Gardner roadster in the last issue of Hemmings (photo taken at Pebble Beach). That car received a lot of attention at that car show. It should be pointed out that both the '30 and '31 roadsters are listed as Classics by the CCCA as well as the 1927 roadster listed on the for sale page of Gardner Motor Cars - www.gardnermotorcars.com

I received a Master Editor for the Capitol City Chapter. Congratulations to all! Kim Gardner

There are more details about Schebler S-2 at Gardner Motor Cars Go to Tech Aid and Tips, 2 sections on Schebler with 8 pages in MoToR's Handbook - gives details about those pesky springs.

Imperial62 - we will be at the Des Moines Concours this week end and will have our 1928 Gardner roadster, stop by and see one in person.

Yes I'm listing this for a club member. FYI The club has three great cars on the for sale page, another roadster and a touring.

1931 Model 158 Sport Roadster restored by Gardner historian Ed Jacobwitz. Long w/b 130" and big eight 299 CID. Located in Reno. Only known '31 Model 158 of any body style. Best offer over $65K - less than restoration costs. Lots of pictures and details at www.gardnermotorcars.com

The Speedster is received via email, not snail mail.

There are Lycoming pamphlets at Gardner Motor Cars at the 'Tech Aids & Tips' link for the GT 226 CID, GS & GR 247 CID and MD 299 CID. Nothing there about torque.

The deadline for the AACA Central Division National Spring Meet in N. Mankato, MN has been extended one week, to July 1. We currently have over 100 vehicles registered for this meet, hoping for more! (I know in terms of an Eastern Meet, that isn't a lot, but for a meet in Minnesota, we're happy!). Come and enjoy our beautiful Minnesota summer weather and attractions!

Bringing this thread back up - the deadline is two weeks away - still plenty of time to register!! On our show field will be two Minnesota built cars - a 1909 Luverne and a 1919 Pan! Please join us in N. Mankato in July - we promise no snow!!