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The Central Division National Spring Meet will be held July 14-16 at the Best Western Hotel in N. Mankato, MN. The show field is adjacent to the hotel with secure trailer parking within 3 blocks of the hotel. There will be a bus tour to historic New Ulm on Thursday, which includes a tour of Schell's Brewery, America's second oldest family owned brewery. The registration deadline is June 24th.

What is the SX number?

Only one Gardner had a Continental engine - the 1930 Gardner Griffin a Front Wheel Drive car. They had talks with Archie Andrews about building the Ruxton and Andrews was to bing $$$ into the deal, Andrews did not come up with any money and Gardner went ahead and made their own FWD it only got as far as a prototype. The likely reason for this one time Continental engine was that it was something like 6 inches shorter than the Lycoming. Look at the design of the car and then think it was build in the fall of 1929! These may be the only color images. Any one know of a car built in 1929 with this type of grill? Besides Duesenberg.

The roadster is still going to the auction. It is the 1930 phaeton that was in the CCCA magazine that sold and is on its way to Switzerland. It went to someone related to the family that built these cars. This particular phaeton was one of the cars Gardner took to the New York auto show in Jan 1930, then to Chicago where it was sold. Low mileage and in a museum for years it was bought by Harrah and on display in Reno for many years. Not many cars can be documented from 1930 to today. ALSANCLE provided the picture of the phaeton.

A couple of updates. The phaeton is sold and is probably on a ship right now. The correct engine does come up every once in a while but they are not common. If your goal is a #1 concours car it will be $$$. However if your goal is to repaint, fix a few things until you find the correct engine it could be a good car to start with. Think about bringing an unrestored car to level 3 and think about restoring this one to level 3. I'm not part of this sale, I just want someone who reads the AACA forum to put it in his garage. The auction house gave me a photo to post. I'll try to size this one right. If any one finds out the high bid please post it here.

There is a National Meet in our part of the country this summer - July 14-16, 2016 in N. Mankato, MN, hosted by the Minnesota Region. We have a great bus tour to New Ulm, MN planned along with all the regular meet activities. Two Minnesota built cars will be featured - the Luverne and the Pan. Deadline for registration is June 24, 2016 - everyone come and experience "Minnesota Nice"! Here is a link to the meet brochure: http://www.aaca.org/images/meet_brochures/2016_Central_Spring_MN.pdf

Sorry about the oversized pictures. We often point out what is wrong and skip what is right with a car like this. To me the body looks very good, and it has some of the unique parts used by Gardner. Only one step plate is shown if the second one matches you have the two correct ones. The headlights are correct, the top and top supports near the rumble lid are correct. Instrument cluster and steering wheel are right. The horn button and spark, throttle, and light control probably function but are not Gardner. As for Classic; the high end Gardner became a Classic about 6 years ago, the mid-line Gardner a Classic about 2 years ago the entry level may one day become one as well?? It was an expensive car when new $1,495 FOB St. Louis - (this was the deluxe model). Trunk, trunk rack, dual side mounts and wire wheels all extra. As for the Lycoming GT engine it was used by Auburn, Elcar, Gardner and Roamer (maybe others). Just some information for anyone bringing their checkbook to the auction.

I have not seen this car in person, but do have a number of photos of the car. I'm the president of the Gardner Car Club. The car is a 1927 model 80 which came with a Lycoming GT engine 226 CID and has a 122" w/b. The '27 model 90 is a full Classic with the CCCA the model 80 is not a Classic. The car was restored in the 1960's and today has a Chrysler eight cyl engine. The original transmission was Warner and I don't know if this has the right one or not. The wheels look like 1930 wheels, most 80's came with wood wheels. The hood ornament should be a Griffin. I would like to see someone in the AACA buy this car, I just want him/her to have a good idea what it is. Attached are some of my photos. A club member does list a 1927 Gardner model 90 roadster for sale on my web site www.gardnermotorcars.com Maybe one will show up at the Made in St Louis Meet for Moon/Gardner/Dorris June 9-12

When I sent the PM I sent a copy to myself. I never got the email. Here's a link http://gardnermotorcars.com/forsale/ltr-cap.pdf

I sent a PM, I had to have these made by a machine shop so it will probably be the most expensive gas cap you'll ever buy. On the other hand the machine shop did a great job, and I could not find one at Hershey in 6 years.

What is the car? I may have one 2 1/4"

** Don't miss this - this could be a one time event. Featuring Moon, Gardner, Dorris and other St. Louis built automobiles. Moon Car Club is proud to be hosting “The Great St. Louis Car Meet of 2016” in St. Louis on June 9th-12th, 2016. We are inviting owners of all Pre-1931 St. Louis-made automobiles & trucks to attend this gathering AND bring their vehicles (drivable, unrestored/restored or works-in-progress) for a great time in St. Louis while the Moon Car Club holds its annual meet.Moon Car Club is proud to be hosting “The Great St. Louis Car Meet of 2016” in St. Louis on June 9th-12th, 2016. We are inviting owners of all Pre-1931 St. Louis-made automobiles & trucks to attend this gathering AND bring their vehicles (drivable, unrestored/restored or works-in-progress) for a great time in St. Louis while the Moon Car Club holds its annual meet. If you are an owner of a Pre-1931 made-in-St. Louis vehicle and would like more information about our meet, please email us at mooncarclub@gmail.com and tell us what type of vehicle you have and we will send you an informational flyer and registration form for your review. Email mooncarclub@gmail.com for more details Moon Car Club http://www.mooncarclub.com/

You guys are good - Thanks

Attached are pictures of 3 cars - can anyone identify them?

On page 11 under Service Brake Adjustment does it list the Radio Special in the 2nd paragraph? If so the manual is 1923-25.

I checked thecarburetorshop.com and your carb is from a 1930 Marmon Big Eight 315 CID. Bob