TomP

​I found this piece of info but can't comment on it's authenticity but agree the serial #, PF Detroit build 1859001-1894740. " Plymouths were assembled in Mortlake Road, Kew from 1932 to 1939 and badged as Chryslers, being given the names of London suburbs such as Croydon, Richmond, Kew and Wimbledon. From 1934 onwards the engines comprised a 3.3-litre six for the Wimbledon and a 2.8-litre six for the Kew."

This caught my eye a couple of evenings ago, Listed on Ebay as a 1934 Chrysler (Plymouth) PE Wimbledon, 4 door Sedan RHD. I checked with the owner on the serial # and it's 1891702 with an engine # PF51476, now please put me right, I am under the impression that KD builds came out of Canada with serial # starting 9? Any information would be helpful to try and understand the thinking of the people behind the Brand

The front fixings of the cab are further back than I thought, almost level with the A pillar, at the front of the cab the metal has been strengthened with some 1 1/4" x 1/4"flat bent a 90° to make a bracket from the floor to the inside of the firewall. Will have to get on to NC Industries for more info on the screen sizes because a PD Sadan looks pretty close.

Think it's safe to say it's not a 1/2 Ton cab, but like you say Dave the cut-out for the column not quite there and I will check that out asap. Would the bracket top centre of the firewall be for the Rad support bars, as there are no brackets either side of the cowl as on my PD and the 1/2 Ton. The fixings for the front Cab/frame are inside the cab forward of the toe board, again no brackets on the firewall side. Second photo is of the 34 1 1/2 Ton K39x4 how does that look to you, I have no ides how they compare size wise.

​Your cab looks very much like the one I've just shipped in from the states even down to where the steering column just infringes on the firewall. 1934 PE ?? I will be replacing all of the lower belt line, shipping is out ofthe question on new parts, good job I'm into making panels.

Just a few more photos for you, next wk. it goes into a container as I only had the use of surf board shop for a few days. Dave any news on how much has been cut from the front of the bed.

Dims. are for the opening that the frame fits into the other dims. of the frame are where it fits to the body and not the outside of the frame. On my PD it would give a 1/8" gap for the seal courtesy:- countrytravler

Have the measurements for the openings relative to the PD Surround. PD at mid height 43" wide vertical at centre 10 1/2" surround is 42 3/4" x 10 1/4" Truck mid height 43" wide vertical at centre 11 5/8" Will try and get better photos of the firewall, inside cab back panel R/H Door and rear fenders later.

The PD is a Rumble Seat Coupe with dual sidemounts and the compulsory luggage rack. Tomorrow I will measure both openings to get a better feel for the seal gap.

​Dave the box has been cut back to 61" , the screen surround is from my PD about an inch short in height so if I can find a cut-up similar body to put either a KU or PE complete panel from the A posts and vertically from the windshield down. The rear is Mopar but the hand brake parts may have been moved backwards from the trans.

Thanks for the reply Dave, it's a Plymouth tailgate but on the box the cab end is not reinforced for the wooded side rails to fit into, later I will see if there is a square cut out for the timber upright to fit into.

Hi Scott, the sides of the hood are good, the problem comes with the top, it's about 1 1/2" short at the centre. the rear drums are about 12" dia with the same PCD as the PD, if you look at the photo in post #1 you will notice the large foot pedal so I think its had an auto in the bay at some point. My feelings are that it can be but back to near stock but will never be stock, I paid what I could afford to lose and it does keep my day full.

Now that it's home I can start to find out what it actually is, over time it's been cut about a bit but most things can be mended. Can you identify this rear?

No joy from the Skillman Library, they do not have any record prior to production, never mind , the truck should be with me in a couple of days.

Now waiting for UK customs to clear the documentation and bill me so that the shippers can release, have transport standing by, shouldn't be long now. Chrysler Historical advised me to contact Detroit Public Library and in turn they have forwarded my enquiry to the National Automotive History Collection at the Skillman Library to see if they can shed any light.

This is what you should be looking for, I'm with knobless, back in the day more often than not roads were tracks, these stopped mud rubbish and debris being thrown into the engine bay, I am of the opinion that modern sump guards are more in tune with cooling.

Don't know if the early ones were different to the 33/34 but it may help.

Don't know anything about them but take a look at showcarquality.com for your gauges they advertise in Plymouth Bulletin

​Great looking truck, good find, thanks for posting.

For the record here is the reply from Chrysler Historical " I show this vehicle as a 1934 Plymouth DeLuxe (6 cylinder) car. The number you provided is actually the engine number and not the serial number, according to our files. Plymouth did built trucks, but the only way to verify this is by ordering the build card. To look up the build card, we would need the serial number, which should be located on the driver’s side door pillar and should be seven digits long. If this is a truck, the serial number should start with an 8. If this is a car, the serial number ranges are attached. " I will just have to be patient. should land around end of month but not sure how long UK customs take to clear. Got to congratulate the service I have received from Chrysler Historical, couldn't be more helpful.

Yes that clarifies it, I had read somewhere about that but on my PD I could only find part of a number starting PD, it was lucky that POC had it on the roaster from way back that I could get the build card. Here is part of the title from 1986 and as you mentioned above the serial No. is the engine No. with suffix 34, I have contacted Chrysler Historical with this information but not expecting the reply I'm hoping for, unfortunately engines get changed and perhaps tin work as well. .

The rolling remains I have purchased from the Texas owners of the title which goes back to 1986 is assembled as the photos show, not just a cab with the wrong body tag attached. It is also the same truck mentioned in the Allpar article these are my reasons for not wanting to confuse the two threads. There was no production Plymouth PU's before October 1936 but there is very little knowledge of pre production development of almost any vehicle.

​Is the frame No. the same as the serial No. ?

Please do not confuse this thread with 1934 PE ?? they are totally different threads. Thanks

​Talking instrument panels my photo in the first post I'm completely bewildered what a Buick style panel would be installed in a Plymouth or Dodge cab, I know on the Plymouth the fascia panel is part of the body construction ie. welded in, so would that be the same on a KC body. Another thing were both Plymouth and Dodge bodies built in the Briggs Plant? Thanks for your help Gents.