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When using any kind of equipment, the trick is to understand the piece of equipment has one goal, that is to cut, break, maim, or otherwise destroy you. Once that is realized, and the proper respect for the purpose of the machinery established, it is very easy to spend a life time running all sorts of machinery and never get hurt. It is only those who believe they are smarter than the machine, that get fingers cut off, arms broken, etc. I once saw a picture of a man tangled up in a lathe. He believed he could run the lathe with loose fitting clothing and the lathe would not hurt him. He was wrong.

Stan Howe, well known early carb restorer and seller, used to say this is a helluva carb whatever its on.

So how does Matt Harwood feel about the car that shall not be named? If a 12 cylinder Pierce is not worth putting back on the road, what is? Or, are we talking about two different things. In the old car hobby, there are lots of streams. The AACA has always been about judged cars and to bring a car up to judging standards is a time and money consuming proposition, which rarely returns a profit, but there are lots of cars that will never see a show field and are just as treasured. It takes a lot less work to make a car drive-able and enjoyable and a lot less money. I can understand how a 12 cylinder Pierce can be worth more for parts than it is as a whole once it gets to a certain condition but the one who parted it out continually reminds us this is a hobby and not meant to be profitable. Whether a car gets restored or not should not be about profit by those standards. It's about preserving a piece of history and the joy and satisfaction of bringing it back. I can applaud the use of derelict cars to keep others on the road and at some point economics becomes the driving force by necessity. Is this really where we are?

I am amazed this motor is still available.

So, first, Happy Christmas! But second, the body looks to be factory. Is this a factory roadster or something converted at a later date? It is almost a miracle that the car made it through two owners without losing parts. I bought a rare car that was dismantled and went through two owners. One of the small parts that was missing was the motor. The guy took it to the machine shop to have it rebuilt. The machine shop owner sold the business and the new owner was not able to identify the motor or the owner so he scrapped it. These horror stories are a dime a dozen with dismantled cars.

It is amazing and I do not believe typical that every piece of the car was there and not needing restoration. The frame looks a little shiny so that may have been repainted but otherwise, the new owner is just putting it back together. It is also amazing how many cars were torn down for restoration when all they really needed was maintenance. The problem is its real easy to take one apart but much harder to put back together. This car is a Lexington, made in Tennessee. There are very few around. I can think of a couple of people who would probably jump at the chance to buy it.

I need two or four 33x4 tires for a project. I'm on the east coast. haywood96@hotmail.com

This picture was posted by Greg earlier in the thread. I believe at that time is was credited to Detroit Public Library and I think, Greg identified the right hand car as a Staver Chicago. The left hand car resembles a Detroit. Google can find no good photos of a Correja.

Will you be reproducing the trophy in silver?

In my particular application, there is a cross rod behind the motor that transfers the motion of the control arm on the steering to the throttle on the carb, which is on the other side of the motor.

Gary, the arms I need are pretty much what you have shown in your picture. The bottom hole is 1/4", the top hole is 3/16" and the distance is 2" c to c. I don't need any zinc plated but what do you have and what is the cost?

I would dare say most early cars had arms like these. They are typically used to transfer motion. The bottom clamps onto a rod and the top holds a rod. I need some for an accelerator shaft.

I don't know what this arm is off of; I am looking for some for a 1911 Buick. I just figured it to be a generac part that is used in many different applications and probably still being produced today. If I know what to call it, I can do a google search. Then again, maybe I'm wrong?

Can someone please tell me what this thing is called and where I might buy some. Thanks.

I have had good success with a pan of Vanilla. The more surface area of vanilla the better. Just leave the pan in the car till the odor disappears.

That looks like the Dragone tent at Hershey.

I still believe it is a Rajo product. Rajo made heads for several different makes of cars. The RA18 on the bottom looks very similar to Rajo intakes I have seen before. Of course, I could be wrong. It happens a lot.

Why was this picture taken?

This picture comes to us from Chevrolet Brothers Website.

I don't know about a movie but the story of the car is amazing. If I have my facts right, and that is a very big if, there were two identical race cars made. One was kept by the factory and the other one was sold. The one that was sold was raced around England and was then shipped to Australia, where it was raced some more. Eventually the motor was replaced by a more modern power plant but the chassis was deemed too valuable. After several power plants the car was retired sometime in the late 20s I believe and wound up in a museum in Australia for early race cars. By that time, nobody recognized the chassis as a beast of Turin chassis and the car was identified with the last guy who raced it. Then, towards the end of the last century or the beginning of this one, this guy in England is able to buy the chassis from the museum. The second race car chassis disappeared along the way but the factory kept the motor. The guy in England identified the chassis he had bought out of Australia as the Beast of Turin chassis and was able to convince the factory to part with the motor. He put the two together. I would hope the movie would cover this remarkable story of the car's survival and I too would love to see it.

Here is another great picture from Hemmings Motor News. It comes from an article titled, Family Albums in Four Speeds. The car is identified as a Thomas.

This picture was also run in the Hemmings article. There is a great story of survival that accompanies the article. It has now been reported Fred Hoch sold the car on to two guys in Pittsburgh.

Here is the digitized Photo Hemmings ran with their article on the car.

Very interesting!

I believe this car to be made by GJG in White Plains, NY. The Radiator is a very close match.