1912Staver

Both the Antique Automobile and the Horseless Carriage Gazette seem to be decent sellers at swap meets. $1.00 - $2.00 each , particularly ones 20 years old or older. Real early issues seem to sell even higher.

The Horseless Carriage Club also provides them. You need to be a member , but no need to enter a show. Just let them know what your car is and they will send you the plaque. Even cars undergoing restoration. Both AACA and the HCCA are great groups !

I absolutely agree Bernie. Paperwork problems are easier to solve in my area than what it sounds like in many U.S. States. But I always factor in a $1000.00 advantage to a project car with correct paperwork. Sounds like you stole that Sprite. I used to pay that for Sprite / Midget parts cars 30 or more years ago. You probably should have hung on to the E Type. Regardless of what you sold it for it is probably significantly more valuable today. Much better than money in the bank.

If that Bug Eye was in my area I would be all over it. I have owned 3 of them in long ago times. Horrible little cars in some regards, but magic in others. Most of the charm of a early Lotus 7 at a discount price. And I am a snug but comfortable fit in a Sprite, the Lotus I can barely squeeze into. A Sprite in that sort of condition used to be a 2 G or so proposition up to the covid price madness. A similar 7 basketcase seems to start at about 10 G's , but you might only find one for sale in North America at that price every few years. Both cost about the same to bring back to life. I already own a better front end than what yours looks like, just need a body shell. But they have really dried up in my area. This BAT 7 project was a great deal. But covid made even thinking about buying it an impossibility due to the border lockdown. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-lotus-seven-4/

As far back as I can remember. The person across the alley had a Model T pickup that he drove once or twice a week. I was about 5 or 6 and the truck really caught my eye. Then we moved just before I started school. A few houses away a person had a Dodge roadster Pickup , 1920 or so to the best of my recall sitting in their back yard. My friends and I would sit in it and pretend we were driving . And another neighbor had a slightly later Dodge 2 door sedan that he drove on nice weather days. Best of all were visits to my fathers uncles farm. Out in the country . a couple of hours drive. Many old cars in one of his pastures . Brass T's , not a lot left of them by that time, on up to the 1940's. But mostly 1920's . Model A Fords and similar. I was truly hooked and still in grade school.

Yes, as hidden hunter has mentioned . A production vehicle needs a title to meet the Export approval process. Several years this was not the case and I bought a number of U.S. project cars / parts cars. The sort of thing that rarely has a title. That all stopped when the rules changed.

Many early cars when found after decades of storage will not have a title. In many cases they have been sitting in a shed , barn, basement , warehouse since a decade or more before titles even existed in the state. There has to be a way of issuing a title or registration document for cars like this. See Ed's title section of the "Great White " thread. My Staver project hasn't been a running car for probably close to 90 years. Did any state have Titles that far back ?

The majority of the ones I have heard of use an existing, usually very rusty or seriously crash damaged , Mustang as a starting point. The Dynacorn body is treated as a replacement part for the existing , registered car. Definitely a bit of a gray area if you can replace the entire body shell and have it still legally considered the same car. It has been done many times in the past , but I doubt motor vehicles is 100% aware of what has taken place. Not just things like Dynacorn bodies. Tons of seriously rusted , valuable British cars have been rebodied over the years. Take a very rusty , Toronto ,1967 Mini Cooper S , buy a regular , rust free , standard Mini 1000 in Texas for example . Bring them both home to your shop in Ontario and completely dismantle both. Reassemble using the Texas shell , and all the correct Cooper parts from your rusty S. It has been done many times. Shelby Mustangs, Ford Lotus Cortina's , and many others. You don't just send a 1966 Shelby in for scrap because it is rusty to the point the shell is breaking in two. The car is rebodied , and lives for another 56 years.

Interesting to hear your axle is a Lemoine type. I doubt very many axle makers would have even had one available in their catalog. I think you are correct about the chances of finding a replacement hub, a very long shot . I expect your axle assy. has a good chance of being unique to your model of Mitchell.

The site is saying it sold for $3200.00. Sounds very reasonable. But bear in mind these are 12 - 14 M.P.H. vehicles.

Here is a link from a fellow doing a great restoration of a 1912 Michigan . His car uses the same rear axle as my Staver. He has done a good job of researching and documenting Sheldon. https://michiganmotorcar.com/so-whats-the-diff-maybe-sheldon-axle/

Pre pandemic I would see rigs like this very frequently hauling late model , used , Canadian pickup's Down to Washington State for resale. New trucks were selling somewhat cheaper in Canada than the U.S. Our economy and $ is somewhat weaker than the U.S so in order to keep new vehicle sales robust the manufacturers discounted a bit for Canadian buyers. So the ones that were late trade ins , lease returns etc. were also selling at a discount compared to the U.S. market, used truck prices. The price difference was enough that many trucks sold new in Canada ended up in the U.S. as used vehicles. The pandemic made all this much more difficult and I don't think it is happening as much any more. But for about 5 years seeing a load of late model pickups heading South was a daily occurrence.

That's got to hurt ! I am surprised at how thin the metal is where the hub shell cracked. If anyone can work out a repair I am sure it will be you. I wonder if the axle / hubs were actually made by Mitchell or if they were a bought in component ? It may be that hub was used on a few different makes / models and you might find a replacement. The axles on my Staver are Sheldon , rear for sure but I think front as well. Given the links between Staver and Mitchell It might be possible your axles are also Shelden . And if they are, most likely not unique to your car. Sheldon was not nearly as large an outfit as Timken, but still I think they had a reasonably large market share.

Bob, I wonder if your GMC had hard rubber tires originally and the 24 inch set up was a after the fact conversion ? The 24 inch rims are what is found on most trucks from this era, and may be easier to get tires for these days. The 25 inch Bakers , although what your truck used from the factory , might end up being a lot more trouble these days. Any of the truck style tires I have seen available recently have been 24 inch.

Me too I am afraid. Might as well have been a description of the Beaulieu Autojumble. I was aware of who Austin Clark was within the hobby, but 0 chance of attending anything back East. Come to think of it , I still can't afford to go to anything much beyond the Pacific North West. Once in a blue moon the Monterey Historics , but that's about it.

If nothing else , we do encounter a good number of quirky personalities in this hobby. There has been a few times where the projected / estimated shipping cost has been the make or break factor on whether or not I was going to purchase the car. For many years I had a job that was extremely difficult to book time off outside of my scheduled vacation. Nearly impossible in fact as I had to be replaced by a certified substitute to comply with Federal Marine Crewing regulations. And my employer was always short of Certified relief personal. Vacation was scheduled in November of the previous year. If the trip could not be fit into my regular days off or vacation time I had reserved months previous I had no option other than a commercial hauler. Having a firm quote for transport prior to closing the deal was a must !

I think there was probably a mounting bracket soldered to the spot in your first photo where the solder remains. I expect it became detached at some point and was lost.

I agree with all your points. My point in comparing a basic light truck and basic car in 1966 was the pricing difference between them , about a 10% upcharge for the truck. The current Maverick would probably follow that sort of an upcharge percentage over Fords basic car, if they had not exited the car business. But a Maverick doesn't seem to be even a fraction as useful as a basic truck as the RWD 1/2 tons of yore.

Actually my M 100 wasn't all that big either. Yes , bigger than a Datsun 620, but compared to a modern ,4 door, diesel , full size,, small and light weight. Mine never looked this nice. I bought it in 1986. A good original 20 year old truck but even when I bought it new paint wouldn't have hurt. Same colors as this one.

Wow !! You guys back East sure know how to have fun. And ample toys as well ! Up here in the rainforest cars like this are nearly unheard of.

3macboys , $35,000 ? choke , gasp !! That's about what I earned last year in after tax $. { retired } My M100 was $2,200.00 in 1966 . A Ford Falcon was $2,000.00 The last Ford Focus had a base price of $18,000.00 a couple of years ago. Fords modern stand in for a Falcon. To be apples to apples the F 150 would have to be closer to $20,000.00 to be in the same ballpark as basic trucks compared to what basic cars were years ago. My first almost new { less than 10 months old } car was $10,000.00 in 2010. still driving it , nearly 300,000 K's. A brand new one was a few thousand more but no dealer in my area had a new 5 speed in stock. And I sure wasn't going to be saddled with a auto. I needed a car and took the one I could drive away in that day . Haven't regretted it for a moment. I would have bought a new one but could not possibly wait 4 - 6 weeks for one to be ordered in.

I was very happy for 2 decades with my 1966 Mercury { Canadian Ford } M 100. Regular box , 2 WD, 4 speed , regular cab truck. The only shortcoming was the small drum brakes for trailer towing. I guess power steering would have been nice as well , but it kept me in shape. Why waste money at the gym ? Why can't any domestic maker build a very simple, very basic, does lots of light duty work truck ? And please, not the price of a Cadillac.

Nothing to do with pick up trucks , but here is what makes the RS2000 magic. Ford's jack of all trades , Homologation special of the early 1970's. Emission/ safety regs. kept them off the U.S. market. You could walk into a U.K. Ford dealer and drive one of these home. Have we really progressed even an inch over the last 50 years ?

30 Dodge, speaking of Escort's. Most regrettably, the first and in the view of many, best Escort models was never sold in North America. A huge seller in the U.K. Europe and Down Under. Rust free ones are worth their weight in gold these days. Even more so if they are one of the performance models. This one from the early 1970's is for sale at just under 100,000.00 British Pounds. Well north of $100,000.00 U.S. Escort RS 2000. The U.K.'s GT 350 R

Back in 2009 my wife needed a new vehicle. For some reason I still don't completely understand she chose a 2 WD, Ford Ranger Sport. Smaller of the two V6's and the trailer package. I was a bit puzzled at first , she absolutely hated driving any of my clunky old full size pickup's in the past. But the Ranger seemed to suit her. And it was handy for trips to the building supply store. Plus it could easily tow my flat deck car trailer , as long as I didn't move too large a vehicle. About the only thing I really disliked is that the seat is way too high. I am fairy tall and the rear view mirror ends up being right at my eye level. She is 6 " or so shorter than I am and the seat is perfect for someone of her height. Ford sold a huge number of these trucks, but for some reason stopped making them. This new " truck " is I suppose Fords attempt to make a replacement. But I doubt it will be nearly as much a useful truck as the Ranger of old. And no doubt a much larger sticker price Just a rather tall car I am afraid.