RO Posted March 16, 2005 Share Posted March 16, 2005 Have been discontinued. Did a search on google for Wix 51035 and found quite a few folks looking for this filter. Someone suggested the filter cross refs to a Federated P8180 but could find no information. This filter attaches via brass fittings at the top and bottom. Anyone know a source or substitute? This is NOT a cartridge type, but the whole assembly is discarded after use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryJ Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 What does it fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ply33 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What does it fit? </div></div>My notes show that it fits 1950-54 DeSoto 6 cylinder, 1951-55 Kaiser, 1947-59 Plymouth 6 cylinder with std trans, 1946-56 Dodge, 1959-?? Gravely Tractors. While not original, it also fits on the 1930s Plymouth 6 engine too. It may fit other applications I don't know about.It would seem there might be enough demand for a small specialty supplier to manufacture them.There is a member of the Plymouth Owners Club that is said to be making a unit that looks like the original bypass filter but that can be opened up to install a modern filter. Since the original filters used a "depth media" rather than the modern full flow "surface media" filters I am not sure the back pressure would be correct for all applications. The 1934 and later Plymouths L-head six engines had a dual function oil pressure relief valve that shut off flow through the filter if the pressure dropped too low. For those cars would probably work. My 1933 does not have that feature and I wonder about the effect on oil pressure during hot idle conditions.By the way, cross references to other obsolete numbers (might be useful at a swap meet) are:AC P-21FRAM PB1/2-P MOPAR MPR 1/2 Hastings HD1/2Walker SU-3WIX WF 1/2NAPA 1035WIX 51035MOPAR L-93CarQuest 85035The original Chrysler part number for this is 861028. The 1920s and 30s Chrysler products used part number 324271 which was superceded by 861028. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 This filter was mounted on my '54 Kaiser Late Special when I acquired the car years ago; it is not the standard equipped filter/cartridge used on the car, but I stayed with it but have since used up the two filters I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 Thanks, all those cross reference #s may help find one at a swapmeet or perhaps still in stock at an older car parts house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 I did a search under google for WIX 51035 and found other folks looking for this filter as well. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-44979.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryJ Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 RO....I checked a quantity of NOS filters I have accumulated over the years using the cross reference nos. ply33 gave....no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RO Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 I found nothing from ebay or any other websites by searching for any of those numbers. Will probably just have to convert to throw-away cartridge type. There are probably bunches of these filters around in old parts houses and warehouses, but how to locate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 In the past several years I have bought 18 C1/2 filters on ebay. They are the same as the throwaway ones used by Chrysler in the late thirties and fourties. The ones with a 1/8 pipe fitting on each end. My car takes a XA-5 (shaped like a 48 oz juice can with both fittings on one end). These are almost impossible to find but by running the line the other way I can use the Chrysler one. Sometimes the go fo 3 or 4 dollars and sometimes for 25-30 dollars. As I change my oil ever 3000 miles I would use 4 filters every year but I discovered that the oil filter (bypas type) only gets hot for about 700 miles and therefore only filters part of the oil for a third of the time I decided that I would plug the inlet so there would be no flow. I have driven my car this way for 25 years and have not noticed any ill effects. Perhaps you only need one filter for show as well??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_virgilmule Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Try Andy Bernbaum (http://www.oldmoparts.com). Sounds like the same filter I'm using on my '30 Marmon (not original, but functional!)Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sixpack2639 Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 Try these people http://www.baldwinfilters.com/ I got the filters (oil and fuel) for my Buick from one of their distributors a lot cheaper than Fram and they had direct replacements for my filter numbers. I bought cases (12) each and only paid $5.30 per oil filter and $2.35 per fuel filter versus $11.00 per oil filter and $5.75 per fuel filter from Fram. Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Further to post #9 I have purchased a filter from Bob's Automobilia. It looks like my original but has a spin on filter inside. Therefore I have the following filters for sale. $25.00 each plus shipping from Vancouver Island.1 Chryco oil filter red with decal2 Atlas C20 filter gold with decal3 Atlas C20 filter gold with decal4 Champ C ½ red with box5 Handi black with box6 ??? grey with bracket7 Atlas inlet and outlet on opposite endsAccording to listings on ebay these filters replace L 93, Chryso 861028; Ace X1/2; PB ½ P; AC P21; Purolator PER ½; and WIX WF1/2.According to the label on the Champion box this filter C-1/2 replaces: AC-W1, 3, 7, 10, 13, 21; XG1, 2; XJ1; XN1;, 2; XP1, 2; Purolator EA4; E1/2; EA1/2; EF1/2; SA1/2; SAC1/2, SNC1/2; Champion 303. Fram P1/2. Pic 25; C5; D5. WIX WF5 white with decal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipj Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Hello Tinindian, Do you still have any of these filters or the gold C-20 filters? Do they take the refill shown in your photo? How does the element open up? I have a similar filter on my 39 Chevy truck (Napa 1035) that is apparently discontinued... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFitz Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 On 3/16/2005 at 5:57 PM, RO said: Have been discontinued. Did a search on google for Wix 51035 and found quite a few folks looking for this filter. Someone suggested the filter cross refs to a Federated P8180 but could find no information. This filter attaches via brass fittings at the top and bottom. Anyone know a source or substitute? This is NOT a cartridge type, but the whole assembly is discarded after use. Is this what your looking for ? Canister with 1/8 inch pipe thread Inlet on one end, 1/8 inch pipe thread outlet on the other end. It fits into many of the early filter mounting straps. https://www.robertsmotorparts.com/oil-filter-throw-away-sealed-cartridge-1 Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Have any of you folks using this particular type filter ever cut one open? Are they paper inside?? If so, I would be afraid to use one. I've heard several stories of similar NOS sealed can filters clogging up oil passages/ruining engines due to deterioration of the never used, but very old paper elements inside . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinneyhill Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) I would be skeptical of this. How does paper deteriorate? Usually in UV light. I suppose it could be acid-bearing paper. I would be interested in the appearance of the blockages in those engines. Are they filter material or just dirt left by non-additive oil? I thought I had read they were like cotton waste inside. Edited January 24, 2019 by Spinneyhill (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 There are some of this type of filter that are made in the far east that have had some internal debris come loose and get into the bearing journals. I supply these filters that were manufactured in the good old USA . 31-36 Auburn used them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipj Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Hello Paul, Yes, that looks identical to the Napa filter... Please see photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipj Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Hello Curti, what are you getting for your new Purolator filters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curti Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 hours ago, philipj said: Hello Curti, what are you getting for your new Purolator filters? I sent you a PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up north Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Does anyone know where I can find a P3 cartridge for my 31 Plymouth 4 cylinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I have three of them. Also see them on ebay fairly often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithb7 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 It appears that Fram has discontinued more than a your oil filter. I need a CP192PL for my 1953 Chrylser. No longer available. I believe the WIX51062 will have to do and is still in production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53 Stude Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I've been looking for Napa 1035, Wixs 51035 sealed steel can oil filter for a 1930 Studebaker Six with 205ci. Andy Bernbaum auto parts has them. Part number L280. Without these filters, my only choice , Frantz oil filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53 Stude Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Andy Bernbaum, 800-457-1250 for Napa 1035 oil filter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viv w Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Has anyone tried these filters from Andy Bernbaum? Would like some feedback please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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